Are you sure of your salvation.

Joktan
Joktan: The apostle Paul wrote to the Galatian believers about "but there some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ"
Galatians 1:7.Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 

I have been saved a long time through first believing the gospel of Christ.
This is what Paul states in that verse "the gospel of Christ".
Its not the gospel of men, Paul did not receive it from man, he was not taught it from men, but by Christ.

Galatians 1:11  But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 
Galatians 1:12  For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. 

Here is what Christ gave to Paul.

1Co 15:1  Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
Note: "I declare unto you the gospel"
1Corinthians 15:2  By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 
Note: "By which also ye are saved".
Now here is the gospel given to Paul by Christ remember, and this is how YOU can be saved.
1Corinthians 15:3  For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 
1Corinthians 15:4  And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 
When you believe this gospel which is the gospel of Christ given to Paul to give to us.

Ephesians 1:13  In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 
What are we been saved from?
2Thessalonians 1:8  In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 
2Thessalonians 1:9  Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of
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DontNeedChrist
DontNeedChrist:
Salvation from what?

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Joktan
Joktan: Read the last two verses.
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DontNeedChrist
DontNeedChrist:

Glad I don’t subscribe to those scare tactics. G-d has always forgiven the repentant sinner long before christianity.

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Joktan
Joktan: Scare tactics?
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DontNeedChrist
DontNeedChrist:

"In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not G-d."

"Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord."

Scare tactics.

Believe or else.

There are countless others in the NT but I only copied the ones you used in your post.

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Joktan
Joktan: I did not write the scriptures. God did. He tells me: Col_1:28  Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
If you came across a blind man who was in danger of been killed. would you warn him? You call it "scare tactics". God warns. I preach Christ crucified for our sins. God has to punish sin.
God is also a loving, kind, merciful God. We are the one that need His mercy. I don't pretend to know everything here. I know I was a lost sinner and heading for everlasting punishment.
I made a choice when I heard how to be saved from this. The rest is up to you.
Don't reply again with another argument. I have shown you how to be saved.
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DontNeedChrist
DontNeedChrist:

This is a public forum. If you can't be open to other points of view you should maybe rethink posting things of this nature at all. A disagreement is not an argument btw.

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Joktan
Joktan: Your logic behind your statement "A disagreement is not an argument" This is done.
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DontNeedChrist
DontNeedChrist:

It's quite obvious you are not open to a rational discussion and are not willing to address tough questions. Quite typical. Good luck with this thread.

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Joktan
Joktan: Your nic name says it all.
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Apokalupto
Apokalupto: you quote Isaiah 66:23 in my thread, a chapter that talks about God's fiery judgment, God will plead with All flesh yet the slain of the Lord will be many. you forget that God flooded the world, entire globe, you forget that God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah with fire and brimstone, you forget that God sent Jonah to preach to the gentiles or else God would destroy the people of Nineveh if they did not repent, you forget that God destroyed a generation of Jews in the wilderness because they did not believe Him, you forget that God killed the firstborn of Egypt, you forget that God will use fire and brimstone on the wicked psalm 11:6

looks like God will destroys people,
1. for their wickedness,

2. for not believing him,

3. for not repenting.

an eternal flame that shall never be quenched is reserved for the wicked.

Isaiah 66:24

24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me:

for their worm shall not die,
neither shall their fire be quenched;

and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

God will plead with those who reject him...
when the Jews asked for a king, God told Samuel don't worry, they're not rejecting you they are rejecting me. the stakes are high.

but "the New testament uses scare tactics"-dnc but you better not be wicked because your carcass will be eternally eaten by worms and the fire will never be quenched.

this one Jew certainly doesn't know the scriptures, far from it. he makes a mockery, a scoffer, he denyer, a troll. his nickname says it all. if you don't know Christ you don't know God. he wouldn't know rational if it smacked him in the face.
(Edited by Apokalupto)
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Joktan
Joktan: I quoted Isaiah 66:23 ?. Your off the wall now.
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Apokalupto
Apokalupto: my post was for the Jewish guy with the pagan looking turquoise alchemical star on his profile picture. we call him DNC or DNM for short. apparently says he does not need the Messiah.
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DontNeedChrist
DontNeedChrist:

It's called the Magen David. The shield of David. Your anti-semitism is showing again.

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Apokalupto
Apokalupto: we've already established me and poetry that that symbol was forced on the Jews the question is why do they still use it it's a pagan symbol get rid of it. it's nothing to do with David LOL
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DontNeedChrist
DontNeedChrist:

Now your ignorance is showing.

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Apokalupto
Apokalupto: no such symbol exists in the Bible. period. speak for yourself.
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Apokalupto
Apokalupto: it is an adopted symbol, and it is a pagan symbol found throughout the world in pagan religions and pagan mysticism and alchemy and magic.
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DontNeedChrist
DontNeedChrist:

Thought you had no interest in having discussions with me. Who's following whom around on the forums? Keep shaking your head, maybe enough rocks will fall out so you can finally think clearly.

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DontNeedChrist
DontNeedChrist:

As if the cross is not a pagan symbol — one that represents human sacrifice, deicide, idolatry—the worship of a man—a created form. All things contrary to G-d's word. The irony is so laughable.

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THE MOTHER EARTH
THE MOTHER EARTH: I am YHWH TZIDKENU, Righteous Branch of YHWH CHRIST. And his 1st witness, seal in revelation 6:2. Welcome to the age of the great vengeance of YHWH...the age of our all our hopes and hopes of your forefathers!
(Edited by THE MOTHER EARTH)
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