Jesus discussing the " little horn " notation JacquesTrappe: Matthew 5:18 " For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled " You ever notice how one title has " passed away ", since it's not listed but exists in Greek manuscripts ? JacquesTrappe: Oh, is it, is that right ? Let's examine your statement " And the word is "tittle", not "title" " Tittle " is from the Latin " Titulus " The most famous titulus was "IESVS NAZARENVS REX IVDAEORVM" - Jesus the Nazarene the King of the Judeans - inscribed on the placard hanging above Jesus' head on the Cross. John 19:19 And Pilate wrote a " title " , and put it on the cross. And the writing was, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS. τιτλος titlos {tit'-los} of Latin origin;; n m AV - title Titlo / Titulus / Tittle , all the same thing You should spend less time correcting people and more time studying, that way you'd know what you were talking about Thank you, come again  edmund_carey: Words mean what they are used to mean, not what their etymology says. Tittle derives from title, but it is not used to mean the same thing. "Jot or tittle is a phrase that means a very small amount. Jot is derived from the Greek letter iota which is the smallest letter in the Greek alphabet, it also carries the meaning, the least part of anything. A tittle was a small dot or pen stroke used in Medieval Latin to signify a word that was abbreviated and missing letters." https://grammarist.com/phrase/jot-or-tittle/ "The word tittle looks very similar to title and that’s no accident. The Latin titulus was used to describe an inscription placed above or below something, such as a placard in a theater. Then, in the 14th century, it began to be used more specifically to refer to a small stroke in writing, such as the dot over an i. The Latin for such a stroke was apex, which meant 'point or stroke' but when John Wycliffe created the Wycliffe Bible [4], he translated apex as tittle, obviously influenced by the fact that tittle was already being used to describe something 'placed above.' Eventually this took on the extended meaning of a small or miniscule amount, and modern biblical translations opt for dropping the jot and tittle to replace them with 'letters and pens.'" https://etyman.wordpress.com/2012/07/05/jot-or-tittle-%CB%88d%CD%A1%CA%92%C9%92t%C9%94%C9%99%C9%B9%CB%88t%C9%AAt%CC%AC%C9%AB/ Usage matters. JacquesTrappe: lmao, no matter how you try to spin it, you're wrong and don't have a clue what you are talking about Title Tittle Titulus Titlo All of them refer to divinity and divine rule and the use of silent determinants in linguistics edmund_carey: Uh, what? They have nothing to do with divinity or divine rule. They are simply writing conventions serving as metaphors for every little bit of what was written. JacquesTrappe: Obviously you are being deliberately obtuse, Edmund, on top of being ignorant Allow me to correct that for you A titlo is called a " little horn " in the Greek concordance This word in Greek is keraia keraia - a titlo ALL nomen sacrum- God, Lord, Jesus, Christ, Son, Spirit, David, Cross, Mother, Father, Israel, Savior, Man, Jerusalem, Heaven, 666 .......are written with a keraia, a " little horn " AKA the " titlo " A " horn " on the other hand is: keras - (a) a horn, (b) a horn-like projection at the corner of an altar, (c) a horn as a symbol of power You claiming that these have nothing do with divinity, divine rule, might, power, is perhaps the dumbest thing I've heard in days, maybe even weeks BOTH those words in Greek are cognate to the Hebrew - qeren: a horn keraia keras qeren That in turn is cognate to the Akkadian " qarnu " and the Egyptian " t'ba ", but now I'm going into waters WAY too deep for you to swim in , so no point in discussing that any further You wouldn't grasp why a dingir is essentially a titlo, etc, too complex for you Also, anybody remotely familiar with determinants in Greek Bible manuscripts would know the iota subscript is the " jot " in " jot and title " I love it when people google their answers and act like they have actually spent any amount of time studying the topic (Post deleted by JacquesTrappe ) JacquesTrappe: wrong again a titlo in the Bible manuscripts is a notation for divinity Keep lying and i'll remove you from the discussion JacquesTrappe: I've explained it quite well in this video Have a nice day : ) YouTube (Edited by JacquesTrappe) (Post deleted by JacquesTrappe ) (Post deleted by JacquesTrappe ) JacquesTrappe: Sorry, you are too deliberately obtuse to hit the concordance for your answers than you have nothing to say (Post deleted by JacquesTrappe ) JacquesTrappe: All i did was post what is in the online Greek concordance, eddie, if you have a problem with it, you should contact the sites that maintain it and tell them they are wrong Aside from that, you still have nothing to contribute to this thread other than an example of extreme ignorance (Edited by JacquesTrappe)  (Post deleted by JacquesTrappe )  (Post deleted by JacquesTrappe ) | Religion Chat Room 18 People Chatting Similar Conversations |