The Biblical TRINITY (Page 2)

amoregrowers: The LORD tetragrammaton is about unity. I do see how you could inturprit it as a trinity.

Y Father
H Mother
V son
H daughter "bride"

The trinity does not exist litrally bc we're all one. We're all the consciousness of G-d. The words father mother son bride are ways of explaining the various ways G-d reveals his attributes. Like left right light dark etc. G-d is absolute reality. G-d does not exist in his creation HE is existance itself..

Apokalupto: The tetragrammaton is not a trinity.

The Trinity is a unity of 3

The tetragrammaton is a shared name by all 3 persons of the Trinity in the Bible.


"Y Father
H Mother
V son
H daughter "bride""-Amoregrowers

No such thing is suggested about the nature of God in the Bible.

This is a Bible discussion, it is not a discussion on Jewish fables and mysticism and occult teachings.

zeffur: @amoregrowers:

YHVH is not an acronym, as you have asserted above.

Here is something for you to consider: "What does Yod Heh Vav Heh mean? The Name is represented by the Hebrew letters Yod-Heh-Vav-Heh (YHVH). It is often referred to in Judaism as the "Unutterable Name". In Scripture, this Name is used when discussing God's relationship to humanity, and when emphasizing His Qualities of Loving Kindness and Mercy."

GeraldtheGnome: This forum has nothing but mistakes on it in many ways. Just fight amongst yourselves over imaginary gods and goddesses, it's not literally a discussion. All that's happening here is another fight over the mythical trinity yet again. Even the original name for the mythical main god of Christianity was not god. Look it up. The tetragrammaton crap has nothing to do with any trinity.

zeffur: No one cares what you delusional atheidiots think. You've chosen your course to be forsaken.

GeraldtheGnome: I am not delusional, nor is anyone you make that false accusation about, it doesn’t mean anything by those who make the mistake of claiming that others are delusional whilst they themselves are delusional which if you don’t understand that it actually does suggest that you are a hypocrite. You are guilty of what you falsely accuse others of in a way. An Atheist also can be a Theist, so Atheist of all gods and goddesses except the Christian ones where even then your Christian mythology within the mythology of Christianity has you believing that there is one god due to an unproven theory that doesn’t even make sense. Even two gods can’t be one god if two gods were around in the past, so if it was believed that they were around in the past and were separate at first then they also should be believed to always have been separate and therefore they should be believed to be separate gods no.

The father bit is straightforward, one has a son is the belief, in mythology past and present, even before Judaism, there were myths about gods having sons, this would make the story each time about a son a demigod or a god depending on various factors and beliefs. Those depicted in The Bible that had supernatural powers were gods and goddesses, that means that those who the very large minority of people now mistakenly refer to as God and Jesus were gods in the book and if you believe that they are around (despite proof that they are made up) then they should believed to be gods too, this also means that all other disproven supernatural beings in the book on all sides should today be thought of as being the gods and goddesses of the book and that if you believe that they are around then they are god’s and goddesses that are now around even though in reality they are made up.

This doesn’t mean that I don’t believe that at least one god and goddess is possibly around right now, it is possible just as it’s possible that they are all made up, the thing is though that I don’t make the mistake of being certain that at least one of them is around right now since myself, any of you and others are yet to prove that even one of them is around and are also presently unable to disprove every god and goddess away from each religious god and goddess. Once a name is given to any claimed to be around god then instantly that is a disproven god, the more claims made about a god the more disproven the claim is therefore each extra claim just shows how made up the god is with each claim. That is why you, me and everyone else is an agnostic and an Atheist. All on here so far, myself included, have shown that we are Polytheist.

The only reason that anyone believes in the trinity myth is because at a meeting it was decided upon out of all of the opposing myths within Christianity at the time that it was the one to go for. It’s a bit like the way those of Disney made sure that the other made up timeline about Star Wars were no longer the way to go. That turned Star Wars into crap. Anyway the misunderstood line in The Book of Genesis in the second verse become thought to meant an actual Ghost, so after that vague and obscure references to a Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost were made. So the third god of the story, yet in chronological order the first real solely mentioned ‘god’ out of all of them that really was a breeze/wind/atmosphere/air, so an obscure and vague story about that then had this completely silly story that the father, the son and The Holy Ghost were all one. That has always been claimed to be properly explained even though it hasn’t been. So the problem Zeffur is that you think that all Atheists are idiots, we are all Agnostic Polytheist Atheists in one way or the other.

Most people that are religious do not think that they are all of those things and most people who are not religious don’t think that they are all of those things but most them think that they are the only Atheists. This means that every time you think that all Atheists are idiots (due to your myth that it means those who are not religious) you are unaware that you are claiming that yourself, everyone else who is religious and everyone else who isn’t religious are all atheist idiots. The only one being an idiot each time that you do that is the Atheist who was the idiot who dreamt up the dumb term that isn’t a name. There isn’t even one Atheidiot around anywhere. I only care about what is so, not what you or me believes to be so. No one is forsaken because of a myth that you don’t even realize is a myth. Work on that grammar of yours.

zeffur: Delude on, dummy--no one cares what you delusionally think.

GeraldtheGnome: All of that was wrong, including that of the use of not just one useless hyphen, no, you went and used two useless hyphens. It’s not what I realistically think and what you unrealistically think that matters, what matters is what is so regardless of what 100 % of people, including you and I, assume is true.

zeffur: You have no idea what is right. You're just a confused atheidiot.

GeraldtheGnome: Like anything about the trinity myth, you are yet to show the evidence that proves that you are right and that I am wrong in any religious forum, any science forum and in any of your very off off forums. So enough with your false accusations and false claims. Bye Agnostic Polytheist Atheist who uses idiotic words that he made up like atheiodiot. You are also a hypocrite who doesn’t understand things yet you think that you are an expert of everything. You confuse something that refers to wind/air/ a breeze/the atmosphere for meaning Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit and the plural of the Hebrew word eloah (which just means a god) for meaning the name God and the word god. Elohim does not mean what you think it does.

zeffur: The evidence is in The Bible. It is the actual documented history of the experiences of the Jews--which, of course, you cannot honestly disprove.

Where is your proof that evolution is true or that it has ever occurred? You have none, of course, because evolution is fiction & a myth/fairy tale for atheidiots & other nitwits.

You prattle on endlessly with one stupidity after the next & you hope one day someone dumber than you will be duped by your obvious absurdities. How's that working out for you?

GeraldtheGnome: The evidence of a documented myth is The Bible, it is a documented historical myth that you will never be able to disprove. This is a religious forum, not a science one, you brought up something that has nothing to do with religion in order to distract me from anything about the trinity topic of this forum. You made false allegations and false claims, you also came out with unrelated nonsense such as stupidly using your made up word atheidiots. You, symbol man, also used hyphens for no reason, you left out spaces, you used symbols and you used the word stupidly the wrong way. Since you want to avoid the trinity topic and you are getting me to stray away from it we are done here for now.

zeffur: It isn't a myth because you are too stupid & dishonest to grasp & admit it is true. Where is your proof that it is a myth?? You have none, of course. You are a nitwit who cannot provide any sound basis for your false claims. Why would anyone believe such an obvious dummy, such as you??

Where is your following?? Which civilization have you sustained? What truth do you have to offer to anyone? You spew disbelief & absurd beliefs in myths. You are just an irrational & delusional dummy who cannot defend your absurd claims & you are apparently desperate for any kind of attention.

Very simple questions:

1. Where is your proof that evolution is true or that it has ever occurred?
2. Where is your proof that God & The Bible are a myth??
3. What truth do you have to offer to anyone?
4. Where is your following??
5. Which civilization have you sustained?

Do you have sufficient brain power to answer those questions or will you just keep spewing one absurdity after the next?

GeraldtheGnome: You used symbols, you made the mistake of thinking that Christianity is not a myth, you then made other false claims and you made false accusations as well. You didn’t use spaces and you used too many question marks. You also make the mistake of using the word sound the wrong way and you insult myself and others. I don’t spew anything, you are also a delusional hypocrite. You literally believe that what is not even possible is certainly true, that is why you, not me, is the one out of the two of us who is delusional. The only one who is desperate for attention is you, myself and others are just too busy correcting your mistakes to even think about getting attention from anyone.

This forum is not about evolution and Bob’s forum about creationism is not about science so the contradictory forum should be a religious forum or better yet be deleted like it should have been shortly after it was made. The name God was not even used when Christianity started, so claiming that a god named God was around thousands of years ago is a myth. Something always came from something so there never was a beginning. That means that even the first verse of The Bible proves that it’s a book of mythology. Here’s another thing, if you claim that there was a beginning then you don’t believe that there was even one god or goddess around before the beginning. Your belief is that a god of no origin was around before the beginning, so you believe in a myth and in that of a mythical god. A god of no origin will never be proven, nor will anything about there being a trinity or almost everything else in The Bible. So by that each god and goddess in that book that you mistakenly think is about one god is imaginary.

Stop using the word truth the wrong way. I follow what is realistic, proven and what is possible. When it comes to god’s and goddesses I believe that at least one of them is possibly around somewhere right now. Each religious god and goddess though are made up, they have all been disproven long ago. The stupid question about if I have sustained a civilzatiion or not does not make any sense. The only person who is continually absurd about things is you.

God is real: I dont get what the whole fuss is about but i will state the following

1 The bible has proven prophecies that came to pass and are still unfolding
2 NDE/OBE/miracle claims and even the spiritual experiences of pagan followers prove the bible and its claims as well
3 The obvious development of people morality and the fact that the bible is the most banned book ever testifies of its claims
4 Just biblical composition alone and the fact that you have more than 40+ authors speaking about the same God through time speaks volumes as to who inspired it

All of the bible is true.

God is real: I forgot to mention that according to philosophy you either have infinite creator (God) or infinite regress (which is absurd and ridiculous).Every possible cause for existence that you can think of falls into one of those 2 categories.Infinite regress has other philosophical problems though.... so i guess you should figure out which is the right option

GeraldtheGnome: You made errors there and none of that is true. Instead of thinking that claims are proof look for what is proven to be true and what is proven to be possible. Look at the first known pieces of each verse of The Bible, not one of them has the name of the author on it. Each person that eventually put a name of the author on went ‘I think that such and such was the author and I think that a trinity is around. They went with that. It’s like someone claiming that the Russian and Ukrainian Presidents are distantly related due to a common ancestor with antennas. No matter what way it is presented it will never be proven to be true but it will be disproven though.

All of the book is true ? Prove it. I can disprove that in many ways.

God is real: Add me friends and lets discuss it.Its annoying to type these messages here and go on never ending forums hm.If you have particular point pm me and i ll address it.You make key errors in some of your pressupositions and how plausibility work

GeraldtheGnome: It’s silly to use big words for the sake of using them, you just did that with one word. An actual discussion is where it’s done vocally and you don’t need to wait five minutes or more for someone to reply. Good luck with what you are trying to achieve though. What does hm mean ? I didn’t make the errors that you claimed, I have made grammatical errors at times though. Regardless of what anyone thinks of any trinity we all agree that there are historical documents about it.

God is real: As i said.Add me friends so i can send you private messages where we can discuss these topics in a faster manner.Here its annoying because its never ending re-posting of things.If you want to understand the problems of the things you speak on ...pm me.I tried with you but you seem to have restricted your profile.Again add me friends and lets discuss it

GeraldtheGnome: Though you have made errors you do mean well. Technically we never said anything on here, we have however typed things. Here’s an interesting fact, there’s a Hindu trinity story too. It is obviously a trend in various religions, I find the biblical trinity to be the confusing one and so many have different thoughts about it.

So do you want me to remove the restriction on you in order to share our thoughts on this subject ?

God is real: Just add me friends or private message me

Apokalupto: No one cares about grammatical errors...except you.

zeffur: That's all that he has to offer---irrelevant pedantic stupidity. He wrongly thinks that the more words that he spews, the better his insanity...

Apokalupto: His posts are littered with assumptions and denial and lacks even a basic understanding of Biblical literature. It's pointless "talking" to him.