Jewish captivity atonement (Page 2)

E s s e n c e: Lol tell me where Jews are determining for G-d?

Zanjan: Isn't that a lesson you have to learn for yourself? Surely Jewish history would have rolled differently had they learned that lesson.

For example, you know you have to accept all the Prophets of God. That acceptance doesn't mean you have to join their religion. The state of the given community is important to your affiliation.

For instance, it you can accept Jesus as a Prophet of God but not that He was God become a man (Christian interpretation), you have to go with your conscience and not join a group that perpetrates that error. This in no way means you've rejected the Prophet because He and the people are not one and the same. You can skip that religious community with impunity and move on to the next.

No one gets to the truth as long as they follow another man's interpretation. Should they come across it, what they do with it is what counts.

I shouldn't have to tell you that the strife between the left wing nut extremists and the militant fanatics carried on by fire in Israel as we speak is proof that such people don't care what God wants or thinks.

E s s e n c e: Zanjan, your assumptions and presumptions of the could've should've and would've been if we have done according to your perspective are fantasies.
You are absolutely clueless in what lessons we have learned. So, go with your imaginary possibilities according to you, which thank G-d the world doesn't go around you, and keep fantasizing as if you are G-d Himself.

Zanjan: The proof is in the pudding, eh.

E s s e n c e: Zanjan, lol indeed, yet, you don't know, nor have tried our pudding, even though you presume you do, while is full of biased self indulge imagination.

Taste and see for yourself, yet, you haven't done neither...

Zanjan: The pudding is not about *Me*.

E s s e n c e: Of course it isnt, yet it is.
You are grossly ignorant about Judaism, Judaic writings and Jews; yet, you speak as you know, when you don't.
Jews have NOTHING to proof to you, but you have a need to proof to the Jews by disseminating information that is base in an non Judaic view as if it is Judaic.

So the pudding isn't about you, yet you make it about you...

Zanjan: I haven't mentioned myself in this topic; yet, you seem to be obsessed with me. Let me adjust your perspective by describing myself now in a nutshell:

I view all the scriptures of the world as the history of God and man's' treatment of Him.
All other history is of man's treatment of man. The one informs the other.

E s s e n c e: All your explanations and views come from you, they reflect your knowledge and understanding. What you view is inconsequential and irrelevant to what it is in Judaic writings, Judaism and Jews know, experience and understand.

A wise Buddhist said, if you want to know Buddha you must become Buddha.

You don't have the knowledge nor Judaic understanding that Jews have on their spiritual inheritance, for this reason you are with a view that is behind the obscure glass. You barely see any shadows and movement, and you are creating a history based in imagination about how Jews know and understand their own spiritual inheritance.

Zanjan: That Buddhist wasn't wise. Buddha was one of God's Revelators and you can't become one. Just like you can't become a Moses. What's possible is to relate to His character and virtues.

Why don't you list some of Moses's traits?

Any wisdom in the Judaic writings doesn't automatically transfer to you because understanding isn't transferable. Painting all Jews with the same brush is ridiculous. I didn't do it and neither should you.

PS: the Jews wrote their own history - nobody else wanted to. Take it up with them.

E s s e n c e: Says you or wasn't wise, and your opinion is full of biases..

You don't know what I know, yet I know what you don't know by the way you are parroting things you are not part of.

Zanjan: When it comes to spiritual laws and principles, I don't have an opinion. Like the sun and the moon, they exist as they are and we didn't create them.

When quoting someone, you should include their name to verify authenticity of their statement. You see, the problem with liars is they just can't lie well enough to escape detection.

E s s e n c e: Zanjan, exactly my thoughts, that's why you couldn't escape detection.

Zanjan: Shame on you! Stop making this personal and stick to the topic.