Did Jesus Dead on the Cross has put an end to His Father Laws? (Page 2)

m_leonora1111: You cannot understand nothing, if she was false as your doctrine that isn't Biblical, then why all those visions that she have. And all that she says was happen, and is still happening today?

Stop focus on Ellen White. Are you jealous because God has spoken to her in visions, and you never heard the voice of God? Don't worry there are many jealous people as you. Go read where I sent you to go. Don't let Satan stop you again. end-times-prophecy.org

God is real: everybody has visions.That mean nothing.In fact i suggest you read her visions that failed and those instances where she spoke pure nonsense and even the critics of her days exposed her for what she was. She said you need her health reform to be saved which is nonsense.She said she knew when chrsit would come back the specific hour and then she forgot it ? What a trickster tactic indeed.She said angels could speak to the people to confirm her visions and when the people wanted response she denied.She said jerusalem would never be restored and thats a lie which was debunked in 1947.Do i need to go on ? Your doctrines are man made and none of the early churched believed as you do.I have nothing personally against you but i can quote and support my statemets very well and i can give you all the references for what i said.

m_leonora1111: You cannot understand English. Maybe you should read her quotes by her pen writings. Because your jealous teachers know that she is from God. I'm ready to start a debate about whatever you want.

I wish that I can write the sanctuary message here. But it is to short here for writing the whole Biblical truth.

You have give me a good idea. I will write it step by step. So that you can learn something that you never heard before.

I love you my friend. That's why God has sent me back here for this specific moment.

Prepare and used everything in your power to prove that what you are about to read is false.

WHlSKY:
Question:

What brought an end to animal sacrifices that were a part of the Mosaic laws? Or the special sabbaths (not the Sat/Sunday one).

m_leonora1111: The sacrifice of Jesus Christ dead on the cross. But it is only that animal and vegetables sacrifices that was done with. Not the 10 commandments.

Go read my sanctuary message.

shadowline: The question was whether or not Christianity teaches that the death of Jesus caused at least some of the law to be superseded, not whether that is true because Christianity teaches it. As far as I know Christianity does teach that. Whether it's true or not is a matter of belief.

God is real: shadowline...the truth of christianity is different topic.We believe its true for many reasons.

m_leonora1111: It is very simple to understand what has done by the cross of Jesus. Read the book of Hebrews step by step. And pray before begin to study it!!

margaret32: Yes and no, as our Lord said. The debate is meaningless in the end because people believe what they want but the TRUTH of OT/NT and our Lord Jesus is a FACT. Though many have tried nothing will change it.

ipirate2: margaret

You likely do not care, but, do facts as opposed to faith, mean anything to you?

Jews wrote the bible, and you should think the way they did and do.

I hope you can see how intelligent the ancients were as compared to the mental efforts that modern preachers and theists are using with the literal reading of myths.

https://bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2

Further.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html

Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it."

Please listen as to what is said about the literal reading of myths.

"Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning."

Matt 7;12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

This is how early Gnostic Christians view the transition from reading myths properly to destructive literal reading and idol worship.

YouTube

Regards
DL

m_leonora1111: Today I will write what was done at the cross of Jesus Christ.

margaret32: Gnostics were not Christian, like JW, Mormons, and all the other sects with self appointed Prophets. Jesus is Messiah, Lord and God, not man.

ipirate2: margaret32: Gnostics were not Christian, like JW, Mormons, and all the other sects with self appointed Prophets. Jesus is Messiah, Lord and God, not man.""

Ignore what Jesus taught then.

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.

Stop telling Jesus he does not walk his talk. You insult him and his teachings.

Go ahead, sin to be saved.

Regards
DL

m_leonora1111: Go read what is done on the cross, and learn how to urn Salvation!!

E s s e n c e: @ dontneedchrist Nicely done!!
It's clear, to the point, with text to back it up.

margaret32: Clear as mud, to the point but what point and if there is no point I will stick with the REAL point that Jesus is God and Man.

Thank You.

ipirate2: m_leonora1111: Go read what is done on the cross, and learn how to urn Salvation!!"

I was never condemned.

You must be a huge sinner, given that scriptures say that none of us are lost or condemned by God.

Show how little faith you have by telling us what were you condemned for?

Regards
DL

ipirate2: margaret32: Gnostics were not Christian, like JW, Mormons, and all the other sects with self appointed Prophets. Jesus is Messiah, Lord and God, not man.

Don't be stupid, and stop trying to make Jesus break his own law.

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.

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Are you a God in waiting, or have you stepped up to your destiny?

If one is created in God’s image, as you and I are, and can know good and evil, as most of us do, then if you believe the scriptures, you have reached Godhood.

Gen3;22 Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil;
Note the “Us”.

Those foolish Christians who believe in the one supernatural God can never live their true naturalistic religion.

Those Christians can never be “Us”, as they see some major immoral sins as good. Homophobia and misogyny.

Unfortunately, they will never gain a Jesus consciousness or be elected to Christ.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.


John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

I find more Jesus consciousness in non-believers, than in the right-wing believers.

This is not to say that the right are not mostly good.

Most are not quite the best good, as they have let supernatural belief have them forget their predestined legacy.

Their single eye is closed.

Religiously speaking, if Christians are fearful of becoming Jesus like, it is no wonder that the only Christian denomination that does live his and her Christian religion, are Gnostic Christian.

Christian who are unaware of how he is supposed to interpret and live Christianity, should ask a Gnostic Christian.

What the inquisitors wrote into history to justify themselves, are mostly lies.

We died because we were the good Christians, who recognized our religious due and destiny.

We also died for naming the supernatural god, evil.

Jesus died for Gnostic Christians, not Constantine’s Christians.

As Jesus asked in the bible, have you forgotten that you are a God?

Step up to your destiny and single your eye.

The supernatural is killing our eco system.

Natural might be a lesser evil than un-natural supernatural.

Regards
DL

ipirate2: margaret32: Clear as mud, to the point but what point and if there is no point I will stick with the REAL point that Jesus is God and Man."""

If God, then he cannot die.

If God can die, get the quote.

Again, on the surface, you are sounding too bright in what you put.

Regards
DL

ipirate2: ""Did Jesus Dead on the Cross has put an end to His Father Laws?""

If Jesus is the Father, and he must be in a monotheistic religion, why would Jesus/Father end his own laws?

What would he replace them with?

Regards
DL

E s s e n c e: margaret32 I care less what you do with your beliefs, I'm not here to convince you otherwise, so your point has no point.

m_leonora1111: Ipirate, all your questions start with "IF"? So you know the truth, but Satan are after you, to use "IF"!! Now! "IF" You want to follow Jesus Christ, start studying the Bible and ask questions that is written in the Bible.

poetry123: Is the law eternal? Torah tells us that it is.

Do not add to the word that I am commanding you and do not subtract from it. You must keep all the mitzvot of the lord your G-d which I command you. Deuteronomy 4:2

The covenant hashem made with the Jewish nation that the Torah- the laws- will never be changed or become obsolete is stated dozens of times with the words:

This is an eternal law for all generations Exodus 12:14, Exodus 12:17, Exodus 27:21, Exodus 28:43, Leviticus 3:17, Leviticus 7:36, Leviticus 10:9, Leviticus 16:29, Leviticus 16:31, Leviticus 16:34, Leviticus 17:7, Leviticus 23:14, Leviticus 23:21, Leviticus 23:31, Leviticus 23:41, Leviticus 24:3, Numbers 10:8, Numbers 15:15, Numbers 18:23, Numbers 19:10, Numbers 19:21, Numbers 35:29, Deuteronomy 29:28

As far as your making of a new testament and new religion- that's all fine. But to claim to be the new spiritual Israel is shtuyot.

God is real: Not all laws in the torah are eternal. Only distinct covenant laws are eteranal.The minor prophets added to the words of God .The torah itself prophecies additional instruction

m_leonora1111: We must keep the ten commandments till Jesus returns. Matthew 5:17-20 Including the seventh day Sabbath of the Lord!!