Did Jesus Dead on the Cross has put an end to His Father Laws? (Page 3)

margaret32: ipirate2 what sorry I couldn't make any sense of all that. Gnostic's taught elitist fake gospels for the few, not the true Christian gospel for everyone.

Jaguar my point is you and dontneedchrist are WRONG. Dont worry about not convincing me, you wouldn't convince me if you tried.

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margaret32 We Jews don't proselytize it is forbidden. We don't need nor care to convince anyone unlike Christians and Muslims.

The thing is that Christianity took Jewish Scriptures and have given their own spin on our religious texts. Non Jews over millennias have claim whatever narrative suits them to validate their claims. Which have absolutely nothing to do with what our religious text are meant for and say.

This is a religious forum. We're here simply to point out the inaccuracy on the claims that have been made on Jewish Scriptures.

GeraldtheGnome: I don’t agree with everything from each one of you. The thing is though the above message includes some excellent sentences. The first sentence of the second paragraph is great and it is so true. The last paragraph is great and it is true too. I wish everyone on the internet would just use words the way most people off the internet do.

Be excellent to one another.

DontNeedChrist: The Torah is eternal, never to end, never to be replaced, never to be added to, never to be taken away from. That is the answer to the OP’s question. Period.

GeraldtheGnome: Each Torah is a book, there is no book that will last forever, each book is made of material that perishes. I just refer to him as the forum maker rather than just by two letters. I still prefer some of the sentences that Jaguar used, they were great.

GeraldtheGnome: I agree that The Torah was misunderstood by the authors of the books of The New Testament to the point of where the claim of a resurrected messiah is claimed to still exist, something where those for Judaism and those for Christianity disagree about. When was the earliest still intact Torah written anyway ? Can anyone truly tell anyone that the original Torah is still around and not replaced in the literal sense of the word replaced ?

DontNeedChrist:
"there is no book that will last forever, each book is made of material that perishes."

I'm not talking about the physical materials. I'm referring to its teachings, its messages, its lessons. They are eternal, never to change. But you knew what I meant.

GeraldtheGnome: Do not repeat my words or anyone else’s ever again. You are quite capable of paraphrasing after all, that was just rude. Neither of us are literally talking on here, you meant that the words of your book will last, that though was not how you originally worded it. They will last for as long as anyone believes in the words of it and also for as long as the writing of it does. Whatever way you want to believe in it you have placed the word eternal to something that will never be proven to be true. Some people also don’t like using words at times.

A lot of religion have come and gone, even the longest running ones will vanish into oblivion if Humans become extinct. It is only most Christians that use English who believe that someone named Jesus died on a cross. Did anyone named Jesus die on the cross ? No. You and I both know that there is no mention in The Torah that someone named Jesus was going to be be born and then ending up as the resurrected Christ that we are told is supposed to be true.

If you want to believe that the words of your own book are eternal then let us agree to disagree about it, there is no need for either of us to even use one more word about it.

m_leonora1111: Gerald! Are you still alive? Later I will write something to open your mind, to get understand of the scriptures.

GeraldtheGnome: Are you using a computer and if so is it playing up ? Am I alive ? No, I’m a ghost that loves getting onto forums. Of course I’m alive, that was a silly question. I’d rather see the words of those of Judaism about the claimed messiah rather than that of those of the Jewish cult that Christianity basically is. The open my mind technique, translation, you cannot prove it and I must agree with what you yourself do not have any proof of. We are typing on here, but by all means show me whatever you think will convince me is true about anything you claim to be true.

m_leonora1111: Thanks to know that my belief is the Biblical truth. Follow all my pages. We will see each other in heaven.

GeraldtheGnome: We can both wish that there is a Heaven, as we do, it doesn’t mean that we know for sure that there is though. There are some things in the book that are true. Did you write a book too ?

DontNeedChrist:

I will quote you or anyone else whenever I wish. Your words warranted a response. Is your skin really that thin or is this just theater?

GeraldtheGnome: Quoting anyone on this site is bad manners, as per usual you guessed what is so. I am not thin skinned and I am not being theatrical. Your self entitled beliefs, whilst you are being a Troll on here, have nothing to do with the subject matter that Leonora has presented to us.

It’s better to use a space before a question mark and next time have proof of what you think is true. Thanks for being a hypocrite though, any time fair criticism was shown on your forum you deleted it. Just respect Leonora’s forum and him, also stop being so overly sensitive.

DontNeedChrist:

"It’s better to use a space before a question mark..."

Space before a question mark? LOL. Not in my universe. Thanks for playing though.

GeraldtheGnome: Your universe has you praying to an imaginary invisible friend, so yours is a delusional one. Don't repeat the words of anyone on here. Use words. Full stops for dramatic effect, that's unimpressive. No one is playing anything.

Jesus never existed. We at least agree about that I think. Don't be a Troll.

DontNeedChrist:

And your universe involves daily rants about something you deny, claim is invisible, and doesn't even exist. Such a grand use of time. You're a stable genius and a punctuation nazi.

A space before a question mark? Laugh out loud!

GeraldtheGnome: The word and should never be at the front of a sentence, my universe, as you put it, involves only what is realistic. It’s not about rants hypocrite and it’s only about me denying what is realistic, yours is about what is unrealistic. You think that your troll efforts is a grand use of your own time ? I am stable, politically correct English and other new ridiculous new forms of English have it that you should do the opposite of what most people do. You fell for that silly way of thinking, some in the distant past did similar things to that, I am not doubting that. You just don’t want to admit that you are in the wrong, you are also delusional. Fortunately I am not a Neo-Nazi, they are scum. I am literally more of a Man than you, physically that is. If you were born a Jew then your parents made sure the tip was cut off as soon as they were allowed to have you mutilated. That is all because of some crazy belief that an imaginary god, that none of you realize is made up, would want literally a part of you to stay there.

Did you hear about the Rabbi who had a job doing a circumcision ? He slipped and got the sack. You also don’t like spaces before question marks. You have no reason to laugh about the slightest things when in reality even you are unaware that you really worship imaginary gods and goddesses. I know that you think that Judaism is not about that, it is so accept it. I laugh at the superstitious beliefs a lot of Jews and Gentiles have. It was a bunch of Jews that started up a chain of fantasies like Judaism, Christianity and every other religion based on it. You should remove the Christ bit in your nickname and replace it with the word reality.

Not once lately have you made this about what the forum is about.

To Leonora. There never was anyone named Jesus that far back, yes crucifixions did happen back then, there however never was a Christ that was crucified back then. There is possibly a son of a god who himself is a god who is possibly a demigod who does exist somewhere now, no one has proof of that and no one will ever be able to prove that either. It also is not something that is disproven and it will never be disproven. The mistakes every religious person has that believes in any god or goddess is claiming that they know the name of at least one of them, what at least one of them is like and so on. The biggest mistake is that they claim that at least one of them is around when in reality they will never know. You do that too. Just be content with the fact that at least one god or goddess is possibly around. Don’t add a name to one and don’t make false claims about one.

m_leonora1111: Two monkey 🐒 business evolution man are fighting each other!!

DontNeedChrist:

Yawn.

GeraldtheGnome: What’s this Monkey business crap about ? The word is men, not man and besides that the other one is a Troll. That yawn bit should not be left on here. Nothing brought an end to an imaginary god’s laws and Jesus Christ never existed.

m_leonora1111: They don't exist in your life, but we'll in our true believers life. If God and Jesus Christ don't exist, then why are you so in love with the Christian forum? Till now my parable of the ten virgins, any Christian has said nothing.

And this topic is about: Did Jesus dead on the cross has put an end to God's law!!

But you and your monkey 🐒 business evolution theory has come and didn't answer the questions.

Again it shows that you are more in love with Jesus Christ and Jehovah God that any Christian can imagine!!

GeraldtheGnome: Believing in something does not mean that the belief is true, you need to understand that. I don't know what the full translation of 'The Boke of Mattheus', which was sometimes referred to as matheus or mattheus in lower case, it is from the 1175 (The Castle Age). The Wessex Gospels in West Saxon Early English, the first chapter. Even the one that you refer to as Jesus Christ was named iesu christi back then. The use of the name god in (lower case only) was used then. I will check on the name Jehovah. There was no Jesus around back then to put an end to anyone's law. I'm not in love with imaginary gods. I still don't get your Monkey business bit.



https://textusreceptusbibles.com/Wessex/40/1

Albert617: The Book of Galatians in the New Testament answers this. The moral law stands, but the civil and legislative laws in the Old Testament, which were given to Hebrews (such as restrictions on eating certain foods) were abrogated by Christ.

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albert617 you're a non Jew, you're not part of the Jewish law, you're not under the law. It's like a vegan pointing the meatloaf is not part of their meal when the meatloaf has never been part of vegan menu. You are NOT abrogated by Jesus because you have never been part of law for Jews.