BELIEFS ARE NOT FREE CHOICES! (Page 3)

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chronology
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Crash
Crash: I'm not necessarily speaking about religious beliefs. My claim is "BELIEFS" period. They are not libertarian "free" choices.

This is easily demonstrable.

Beliefs are a logical consequence of being convinced of the validity of a proposition. Once one is convinced by whatever means, their beliefs comport accordingly....no choice invovled.

I haven't had the chance to read all the responses yet....but I posit a thought experiment for everyone.

Think of something you DON'T believe is true.....I don't need to know what it is, just get it in your head. Got it? Ok.....now.....CHOOSE.....RIGHT NOW....to believe IT IS TRUE!!

Tell me the results of this.
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Crash: That's great chron....but you didn't answer my challenge. Also....your 2 paragraphs are fallacious. DNA is not a "program." That is demonstrably false.

You are horrible at debate.
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Crash: //DNA is a programe. A written set of instructions which produce a specific result from the cells they use. There are millions of such programs running right now in your body.//

Incorrect.

You have NO idea what you're talking about. DNA RESEMBLES a "program" ....it isn't ACTUALLY a "program."

You are woefully ignorant on this topic. Please stop embarrassing yourself.
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Crash: LMFAO ....chron....I've ripped you apart on these thread sooooo many times it's sad now. You make claims you cannot back up....then when I embarrass you ......with logic and facts...you run like the bitch you are. LMFAO

Do me a favor....just don't comment anymore....save us both the headache.
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AretoNyx
AretoNyx: YouTube Many do have different beliefs that are not a choice but some can choose what they do with such belief.
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AretoNyx
AretoNyx:

Interesting the topics of such are even in scifi
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Crash
Crash: AretoNyx.....

//Many do have different beliefs that are not a choice but some can choose what they do with such belief.//

A.) ALL beliefs are not free choices.

B.) Yes beliefs inform actions.....they don't necessarily FORCE actions. I'm not sure what your point is with this as it wasn't the topic of the thread.
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TheismIsUntenable
TheismIsUntenable: It seems the fundamentalist religious types have the hardest time with this. I suspect it's because their brains don't work very well.

To me, it's obvious that beliefs are not choices. I don't just decide to believe in leprechauns. I look at the evidence in favor of that proposition and I come to a conclusion. It's not a preference, like deciding between milk and orange juice.

I don't believe we have any choices though (at least not in the sense of free will), so maybe that's why this seems so obvious to me.
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