FAITH (Page 114)

zeffur: You_are--not_part--of_the-group__of--everyone_-that-_I--referred__to. You are insane, irrational, delusional, ignorant, & a dimwit...

GeraldtheGnome: Bob is afraid of the truth. Zeffur does not know what the word everyone means, so like Bob, Zeffur got frustrated, hypocritical and insulting. Bob got so frustrated that he deleted what was fair criticism.

So everything in Genesis one is true and right ? Here's a reminder of everything that you two claim to be true and right.

1. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

6. And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

9. And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

10. And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

11. And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12. And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

13. And the evening and the morning were the third day.

14. And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15. And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18. And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19. And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

20. And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

21. And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

22. And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

23. And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

24. And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

25. And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26. And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29. And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

30. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

31. And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Blackshoes: You claim you know better than those that witnessed the truth.

Typical ignorant atheist thinking himself wise.


Romans 1: 16-22

16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

zeffur: Jesus prophesied his resurrection before His death. Had Jesus not been resurrected, His disciples would have justifiably considered Him a fraud & not followed his commands after His death. Given the documented facts about Jesus' death & resurrection & the fact that His disciples DID follow His commands & establish Christianity, Jesus was in fact resurrected. Only a completely irrational dimwit would illogically think otherwise.

You really are completely wrong in nearly EVERYTHING that you post. You are one of the dumbest people online & an absolute WASTE of everyone's time because you are corrupt & incorrigible!

gO_aWAy--_tRoLl! yOu aRe A CoMPleTE waSTe oF eVERyOnE_s tIMe_!_!_!...

GeraldtheGnome: Here's your 'evidence' that proves in your mind that Jesus existed then, The Bible has that there were witnesses and disciples of Jesus, therefore it must be true because the book written by Humans has the claim that the book was written by a god and therefore there must be a god because the book has that Jesus was his son. Meanwhile from certain creative versions by both of you, each of you think that it is only about one god. Use standard words.

zeffur: gO_aWAy--_tRoLl! yOu aRe A CoMPleTE waSTe oF eVERyOnE_s tIMe_!_!_!...

GeraldtheGnome: Everything that you both claim is true is circular reasoning because you both think that the book is the claim that also proves the claim of anything within it each time.

zeffur: gO_aWAy--_tRoLl! yOu aRe A CoMPleTE waSTe oF eVERyOnE_s tIMe_!_!_!...

zeffur:

zeffur: Posted elsewhere:

You have done what most atheists do--you ignore the available evidence & you pretend that the origin of the cosmos from nothing doesn't matter, when in fact it matters a lot! The cosmos/nature has no intelligence or capability to originate & evolve itself & life. We know this because we have studied nature & life for generations & we have found NO unbiased & credible evidence or sound reasoning of any kind that substantiates that the cosmos/nature has ANY intelligence or capability to originate & evolve itself & life.

1. The universe is finely-tuned to very precise quantities that cause it to exist. Small variations in such fine-tuning & matter & other things could not form/function properly.

2. The earth has all that it needs for life to survive on it. Without our planetary composition, nuclear & molten core, magnetosphere, & proximity to the sun, earth would not have an atmosphere or liquid water, as it would boil off from the extremes of solar & cosmic radiation.

3. Mankind has known for millennia (it's documented history) that the God of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob exists because God revealed Himself to them, blessed them, & commanded them to document how the universe & all life came to exist & how kinds reproduce only with their own kinds & not with other kinds. There is ZERO credible evidence or sound case to the contrary that has ever been shown that any new kind has ever emerged from any existing kind. What would any purported new kind breed with, since it would not be able to breed with its own kind anymore?? There is also zero proof or any sound case that any series of mutations have ever occurred that has led to any new kind. Beliefs & opinions to the contrary aren't proven facts--they are indefensible notions.

4. Secularists have no proof & no sound case to substantiate that abiogenesis or evolution are valid/true or have ever occurred. Evolution is a proven 100% indefensible lie & fraud that has NO sound basis whatsoever. It is not even a valid theory, as it has never ever been proven to be true or having ever actually occurred. Evolutioners have failed to meet their burden of proof for their absurd & indefensible claims. There is NO sound reason to accept that abiogenesis or evolution are valid/true or have ever occurred. This is the reason that sane, honest, rational, well-informed, & intelligent people reject the myth of abiogenesis & the myth of evolution. Such notions are relegated as a myth/fair tale to atheist & other nitwits.

5. The Bible provides the ONLY reasonable/rational explanation for how the universe & life came to exist. All other claims are nothing but claptrap.

If you can prove otherwise, then a Nobel Prize awaits you!
Immense intelligence & power are required to originate the universe & all kinds.

GeraldtheGnome: Is your computer still playing up. We are all Atheists. You though are an Theist in regards to Christianity only

Your number one can get a 'number one' on.



Superfluous ? Another silly word that can be 'fine tuned' during with the use of a better word that's in a dictionary or a thesaurus. The same with the words derivation, parameters, assertions, posits and then there is the annoying 'die off' bit as well as the collective 'we' crap. After that the guy 'begged' for bloody funding in the video.



Your number two should get a number two on it. Apart from the comma before what should be the word and at the time and as well as that of the symbols, it wasn't too bad, the thing is that the planet wasn't designed by a god with Humans in mind, even in The Bible there is nothing to suggest that any god of the story decided to create a planet because he wanted to make Humans, it was more of a case of, well let's make some Humans while we're at it or under you misled belief that it's a monotheist religion, the belief that it's a 'while I'm at it I will create Humans from nothing' thought from a god.









This number three of yours, it's about a god, not a God, God is a name, god is a word. It's an error many make. No matter whatever name anyone gives any god it's still about a god that still is not around, who only 'came to be' when someone made up a story about him and outside of the story there never was, the still isn't and never will be the presence of that god anywhere except in the minds of people who have been misled. Stop using the word sound that way, it's extremely foolish to use that way. You are trying to convince me of a god named God who was never mentioned anywhere in writing before the Feudal Age, even if we remove names, it's still about a god of no origin who used magic and created something out of nothing and also used spontaneous generation at times to create life such as Humans. If you get past your own bias do you understand from my standpoint that it's really difficult to convince me of unproven supernatural claims ?

Your, number four. Just without the silly nature has no intelligence bit, tell me what you think Abiogenesis is because that repeated line is really boring and silly. No one knows if anything about it can be proven or disproven, everyone on every side just guesses about it and I have seen no one on either side that is for it, though maybe 'Professor Dave' since he is a bit that way about certain things. Every time people show you lot proof that evolution has occurred one of you deletes it, most likely without hearing and/or seeing what is presented and then telling us that it's false. Don't be biased, find out if it is wrong or right instead of the silly bit of I know that whatever you show me in the future is wrong kind of attitude. The myth is that you think that Abiogenesis is false when in reality no one, including you and I can prove or disprove it, we also never will. No one was around to see the first life form come alive on Earth and the problem is that there is no way to test anything to find out when that happened. Also stop claiming that evolution has never happened when you haven't looked at everything for and against your way of thinking.

In fact you do this with everything, you never look at everything for and against your way of thinking. You literally think that you know everything, in a sense you think that you have a god like ability to know everything. Even if at least one god is around right now then he does not know everything, then again he is not you. The prize awaits you if you can show how everything is possible. Stop insulting people. You have nothing to prove all of your claims that you have the burden of proof of. We both have to show why what we are for and what we are against is as we think it is. Each thing you mentioned you did not have no evidence so far to prove that anything you told me is true yet you have the gall to be rude to me about it, you also made false accusations and please cease making false claims. Read that one to 31 that I put up, at no given stage does any of that have even the vaguest explanation for any of those 31 verses.

Prove that a god has no origin, even in that chapter there is no mention of that. Prove each thing in each verse of each claim or just admit that you don't know if you fail to do that, even anything other than you proving each one of then will show that you don't know, if you don't prove any of it of course. The Bible is just written claims throughout most of it. The proof is only what is credible that is found away from The Bible.

zeffur: gO_aWAy--_tRoLl! yOu aRe A CoMPleTE waSTe oF eVERyOnE_s tIMe_!_!_!...

GeraldtheGnome: Your imaginary everyone only includes Creationists, that’s a very small minority even amongst Christians and the short time length creationists amongst Christians is a very small group amongst Creationists. You must feel proud being a member of such an isolated group that most Christians are wary of. Your error ridden Troll message is a false accusation as well.

zeffur: gO_aWAy--_tRoLl! yOu aRe A CoMPleTE waSTe oF eVERyOnE_s tIMe_!_!_!...

zeffur:

GeraldtheGnome: Those two messages wrong, dumb and pointless. They were also examples of Trolls, you included. Everyone is an Atheist, therefore by his so called point, he, who is dumb, also unknowingly accused himself and everyone on Earth and in orbit of being dumb. Just like you, he doesn't think anything through. So you just showed how dumb you were by showing that, Jordan (who is the laughing stock) Peterson and Lucas, the latter who I personally brought about a video that countered his crap. The video was directly made due to my own words to the one who made the video, I personally though do disagree with the minority of things within the video though, I was even given a kind of thank you for it near the end of the video since I am not a fan of Patreon begging.



The known Universe may have had an origin, but there was something before that, so what I mean is the Universe (even before the known about Universe) did not have an origin. There was always something before something, someone and some life form, this includes that of any god or goddess, if there is at least one around somewhere right now. The Earth was made out of something, there is no such thing as one (supernatural being) that was or even is outside of the Universe, it, the Universe, literally has no boundary, no beginning and no end. I personally find it highly unlikely, yet not impossible, that there was a Big Bang, a singularity with concentrated energy of various material with dark matter around and so on around it and The Red Shift. Any god or goddess was made up of something and had some sort of origin if one of them is anywhere right now.

1. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

That verse is literally an example of a god named God (which is a Feudal Age name) that is supposed to have been around before the beginning, it's contradictory because if the claim is that there is a beginning then the claim really is that he was first, that he was formed from nothing, which is impossible by the way, then he created what really is about the Earth's atmosphere and Earth that the claim has was created from nothing. So your rednecked, stupid hillbilly is a hypocrite since quite a number of your favourite book's verses. especially verse one in chapter one of The Book of Genesis, is about something being created from nothing. So magic tricks by an Alien god by various current and former names of Christianity, Judaism and so on. He used the word existence the wrong way, come into being or something like that would have sounded better with his false claim. There is no such thing as moral bankruptcy, that's just your guy being a wanker.

Zeffur, you are not moral, most Christians, despite what I disagree with them about are moral, most people that are not Christians, including those that are not religious are moral. The guy in your video and two in your next video have no morals and ethics. There is no religious god anywhere at all, so the without god bit is just a load of crap about an imaginary god to whom he used the Feudal Age name for. Only those that best at adapting survive, not only the strong survive, so once again the fool in the video didn't know what he was talking about. He is just a loud mouth know it all Yank who knows nothing, who is ignorant, arrogant and thinks that he is superior to anyone who is not a Christian. So he's bigoted, he has religious bias and he has confirmation bias. Him, Lucas, Jordan Petersen, Lucas and you all failed miserably. Then he continued on with his own false accusations and false claims, just like the other two did, no wonder you like them, they have the same flawed way of thinking that you do.

Atheism has nothing to do with Communism, your guy is clearly nuts. The Bible itself has passages clearly promoting, encouraging and ordering slavery. The only mentality of being elite is by Creationists who are under the illusion that they are persecuted and treated as inferior. They, including you, play the victim card. No one has true freedom, no one ever did. Creationist in particular do not want there to even be an attempt at true freedom, that's a shame. Those that want people to live a certain what and want to force their imaginary beliefs onto others are Creationists. When creationism has been practiced there have been terrible outcomes. Everyone is an Atheist and terrible things have not been practiced by most Atheists, that means that there has not been terrible outcomes by most of them. The Bible is not an audiobook so it literally has never said anything.

Way more true than it is true doesn't make any sense, then again Petersen is known to come out with crap, the same with Lucas. That was a video that meant absolutely nothing.

GeraldtheGnome: 36. He that beleveth on the sonne hath everlastynge lyfe: and he that beleveth not the sonne shall not se lyfe but the wrathe of God abydeth on him.

The Tyndale version of what you just told me. But wait, the further you go back the less it is like the verse that you just showed me. No one will see soon enough. Maybe I will see a space before an exclamation mark from you one day though.

GeraldtheGnome: Everything and every life form, including us, has a beginning and an end. There is no such thing as everlasting life, the nonexistent son and the god who is supposed to be his father is made up. Wait until you see some of the verses from The Feudal Age, then you will notice that the name God was absent during most of that time period.

Blackshoes: One way or another GTG! You'll see soon enough!

John 3:36

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Blackshoes:

GeraldtheGnome: If I am to believe that Noah existed and that there's a magician in the sky looking down at us right now then let's think about something for a minute. The one named Noah (in English) only had grandsons according to the claim, the claim does not include granddaughters. So since there is also the claim that only his family were around then who did his grandsons have sex with ? There was their grandmother possibly if I am to believe that they all existed, there was also there own mothers if they existed and their aunties. So did they have sex with at least one of them if the claim is true ? There were no virgin birth stories in that Testament at all.