Lists of Sins... AretoNyx: I am going to gradually add in all human history whatever was a sin even if not all religious sects agree. Yes many hells and heavens besides those laws created with whatever is deemed to be believed in relation. The fact is what people think matters even if a nontheist or theist whatever beliefs politically or any topic. Some vote and others rule others any how even if just a church or parent telling a kid anything ( even if not based on facts or harmful in some way). First however some say that dancing, some thoughts, loneliness, and questioning religious/ political views are a sin...while others say not so much in depending on how or at all whatever opinions. Yes many will say there are exceptions or find ways to say a thing is not " actually" without a deity saying so themselves. This is just interpretation and translations but still interesting how it all effects day to day life of all. What do you deem is a sin or oppose as a sin? AretoNyx: To start some resources such as books of a bible but in digital form. Though many sects of religions have different views even there. https://truediscipleship.com/official-list-sins-new-testament/ en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category  inen.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_views_on_sin en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_on_sin#:~:text=Judaism regards the violation of,has many classifications and degrees. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_views_on_sin http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_sin.htm AretoNyx: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baháʼí_views_on_sin en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_sin en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actual_sin en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin_of_omission https://www.britannica.com/topic/original-sin https://www.britannica.com/topic/cardinal-sin https://www.britannica.com/topic/sin-religion en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venial_sin#:~:text=According to Catholicism, a venial,an unrepented mortal sin would. From an online dictionary. : ve·ni·al sin noun (in Roman Catholicism) a relatively slight sin that that does not entail damnation of the soul. "she lost her patience, a venial sin she must report later to Father Damien" en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_sin AretoNyx: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy https://www.britannica.com/topic/blasphemy en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_law Theists questioning laws as such and any interpretation of any other theist is blasphemy, or not? Of course many say we all sin and are born in sin ...though babies are different and so on. In the end only forgiven whatever way but some sins never are forgiven? AretoNyx: Now some on the ten commandments in perspective of religious views besides just christianity as well.: "The numbering of the Ten Commandments differs in different religious traditions. In Talmudic Judaism, the “prologue” is the first commandment, or utterance, and the prohibitions against false gods and idols are the second. Medieval Roman tradition regards these elements as one and splits the commandment forbidding coveting another’s wife and another’s property into two. Greek Orthodox tradition regards the prologue and prohibition against false gods as the first commandment and the prohibition against idols as the second." https://www.britannica.com/topic/Ten-Commandments What is the Sabbath day? "Sabbath day Most Christians believe that Sunday is a special day of worship and rest, commemorating the Resurrection of Jesus on the first day of the week on the Jewish calendar. Most Christian traditions teach that there is an analogy between the obligation of the Christian day of worship and the Sabbath-day ordinance, but that they are not literally identical. For many Christians, the Sabbath ordinance has not so much been removed as superseded by a "new creation" (2 Corinthians 5:17). For this reason, the obligation to keep the Sabbath is not the same for Christians as in Judaism. Still others believe that the Sabbath remains as a day of rest on the Saturday, reserving Sunday as a day of worship. In reference to Acts 20:7, the disciples came together on the first day of the week (Sunday) to break bread and to hear the preaching of the apostle Paul. This is not the first occurrence of Christians assembling on a Sunday; Jesus appeared to the Christians on the "first day of the week" while they were in hiding. One can maintain this argument in that Jesus himself maintained the Sabbath, although not within the restrictions that were mandated by Jewish traditions; the Pharisees often tried Jesus by asking him if certain tasks were acceptable according to the Law (see: Luke 14:5). This would seem to indicate that while the Sabbath was still of vital important to the Jews, Sunday was a separate day for worship and teaching from Scriptures. Sabbatarian Christians (such as Seventh-day Adventists) disagree with the common Christian view. They argue that the custom of meeting for worship on Sunday originated in paganism, specifically Sol Invictus, and constitutes an explicit rejection of the commandment to keep the seventh day holy. Instead, they keep Saturday as the Sabbath, believing that God gave this command as a perpetual ordinance based on his work of creation. Sabbatarians claim that the seventh day Sabbath was kept by all Christian groups until the 2nd and 3rd century, by most until the 4th and 5th century, and a few thereafter, but because of opposition to Judaism after the Jewish-Roman wars, the original custom was gradually replaced by Sunday as the day of worship. They often teach that this history has been lost, because of supression of the facts by a conspiracy of the pagans of the Roman Empire and the clergy of the Catholic Church." https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Ten_Commandments Then those that work on whatever sabbath day is forgiven in repentance? Other issues with interpretation exists. "Critical scholarship is divided over its interpretation of the ten commandment texts." en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments AretoNyx: Many say there is only one true way of one religion of whatever sect of whatever view besides logical fallacies like no true Scotsman fallacy. However besides there is some similarities even among the differences of people and beliefs at times. Still however the battle between theist verses theist exists even claiming other theists ate actually nontheist of such differences including political or other views such as on science. In the way of that do many sin to be seen as superior they way they show such towards any theist or nontheist? Are those sins forgivable to even the generations they touch or touched? Any how the sins in views of many majority religions do influence in many way even today. "According to the biblical narrative the first set of tablets, inscribed by the finger of God, (Exodus 31:18) were smashed by Moses when he was enraged by the sight of the Children of Israel worshipping a golden calf (Exodus 32:19) and the second were later chiseled out by Moses and rewritten by God (Exodus 34:1)." en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablets_of_Stone en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments_in_Catholic_theology en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/613_commandments AretoNyx: "This is the list of the new commandments in Exodus 34:[5] Do not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God. Do not make any idols. Celebrate the Festival of Unleavened Bread. For seven days eat bread made without yeast, as I commanded you. Do this at the appointed time in the month of Aviv, for in that month you came out of Egypt. The first offspring of every womb belongs to me, including all the firstborn males of your livestock, whether from herd or flock. Redeem the firstborn donkey with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, break its neck. Redeem all your firstborn sons. No one is to appear before me empty-handed. Six days you shall labor, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even during the plowing season and harvest, you must rest. Celebrate the Festival of Weeks with the firstfruits of the wheat harvest, and the Festival of Ingathering at the turn of the year. Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Sovereign LORD, the God of Israel. Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast and do not let any of the sacrifices from the Passover Festival remain until morning. Bring the best of the firstfruits of your soil to the house of the LORD your God. "Do not cook a young goat in its mother's milk."" https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.biblegateway.com/passage/%3fsearch=Exodus%2b20&version=NIV&interface=amp https://www.learnreligions.com/muslim-view-of-the-ten-commandments-250914 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_views_on_sin#Major_sins:_Al-Kabirah http://www.quran.mu/70-major-sins-in-islam.html AretoNyx: Does sinning matter because one can be forgiven any how? Some say even death bed conversions are a thing. Even ghostly beings can move on with such abilities in stories. Is it ever part of a plan of a deity for sin " the problem of evil" as even some theists proposed this? Yet is determinism and freewill... nature verses nurture involved in anything besides beliefs when it comes to human behavior? Conformity can be good or bad depending I suppose based on known human history. Yet many disagree on facts even now in testing verses belief alone it seems. Origins in history of even what a sin is are a thing many seem to care on. " Different theories on the origin of sin have been proposed by world religions. Hinduism and Buddhism relate sin to karma: it is the baneful result of one's misdeeds in both the present life and in one's past lives. The monotheistic religions believe that human sinning is volitional because of free will, while at the same time they attribute the power of sin to the works of the Devil." https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Sin AretoNyx: Some say hells or heaven or even purgatories...but others say reincarnation. Some say karma and caste systems...while others deny such exist. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_in_India en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untouchability#:~:text=Untouchability is the practice of,regarded as "higher" caste. History of ostracizing occurs all over the world of all types of religions. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/pages/article/indias-untouchables-face-violence-discrimination en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostracism en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shunning "Religious disaffiliation is the act of leaving a faith, or a religious group or community. It is in many respects the reverse of religious conversion. Several other terms are used for this process, though each of these terms may have slightly different meanings and connotations." en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_disaffiliation en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy Even a divorce or separation can be seen as a sin in some religious groups. AretoNyx: Other views when it comes to Christian beliefs on divorce... Searching google.: "This myth says that all divorce is forbidden by God, sinful, and unpardonable in God's eyes—or, similarly, it says that Jesus or Paul never mention the topic of physical or emotional abuse, so it must not be a biblical reason for divorce. In reality, Scripture shows us God's permission for divorce in several places." Apr 6, 2020 https://lifesavingdivorce.com › myth... Myth 18: Divorce is the Unpardonable Sin and "God Hates Divorce" What the Bible says about divorce? "In the first, Matthew quotes Jesus as saying: “It was also said, 'Whoever divorces his wife, except on the grounds of porneia (sexual immorality), makes her an adulteress; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.” (Matthew 5:31-32)." https://www.divorcenet.com/resources/divorce-and-religion.html AretoNyx: Love thy neighbor and love thy enemy ...is it a sin not to? https://www.britannica.com/topic/cardinal-sin https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.biblegateway.com/passage/%3fsearch=1%2bCorinthians%2b13:13&version=NIV&interface=amp https://www.openbible.info/topics/hate_the_sin_love_the_sinner Many argue one can hate sin and the sinner in a holy way while others say one can just hate the sin while forgiveness is possible for a sinner. There is a conflict of interpretation including that all are sinners and if only a God can give forgiveness. Some still stone to death or seek honor killings. Many make exception for some people over others that do sin if whatever sort. Many getting accused of deeds that even the innocence project provides wrongly accused on death row. So the issue of people playing a deity is often in whatever judgements and hypocritical behavior even in conformity with biases. Humans will human whatever interpretation I suppose based on history of events in general. Even some dictionaries have something to say on the topic of sin. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sin https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/what-is-sin AretoNyx: Can some one in conversion or even a nontheist ..."born again" go to some heaven? https://americanhumanist.org/news/2013-06-do-atheists-go-to-heaven/#:~:text=Atheists%20are%20the%20only%20ones,narrow%20and%20littered%20with%20obstacles. Also some say once saved always saved. Any how is is a deity in the end that really decides oy after death? Now of course there is Pascal's Wager and such as Pascal disreguarded any view of what is the correct religious view other than his own. It is still a competition what way is the only right way and interpretation of what is a sin still hangs with some sins. Does it even matter if one sins after baptized at any age, and does it matter even to remain a gnostic theist of any specific religion? AretoNyx: https://www.learnreligions.com/pagans-and-the-concept-of-sin-2561744 " Wiccan morality is largely expressed in the Wiccan Rede: 'An' it harm none, do what ye will' - old-fashioned language for 'as long as you aren't harming anyone, do as you wish'. While this could be interpreted to mean "do no harm at all," it is usually interpreted as a declaration of the freedom to act, along with the necessity of thinking through and taking responsibility for the consequences of one's actions.[" en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiccan_morality I know I use wiki a bunch. Pretty useful for sources and ideas in general though. AretoNyx: Is there ever contradiction or hypocritical actions of such to interpretation of sins and is there ever a way to be forgiven of all sins? Though is one truly repentant if they keep committing sins intentionally or not, or is it part of a plan we sin? Some believe there is a hell and some say there is none that are theists...though how does one tell this? There are so many religions and religious views on sin and of the like. However many seem to think it taboo to have communication over such as if talking on sins is a sin. AretoNyx: Things are what they are... not going to let it put dread on me. Though some maybe know it alls or say quit questioning ...or don't really care as much as myself or more. I am just curious what others think as people do keep going on and on with such stuffs pretending some superiority complex. Any how pretty much all I guess other than repetition. AretoNyx: Something about trying to avoid sin, heal from sin, and so on are also mention in texts of many religions. One way is through Jesus Parables... "Jesus's parables are seemingly simple and memorable stories, often with imagery, and all teach a lesson in our daily lives. Scholars have commented that although these parables seem simple, the messages they convey are deep, and central to the teachings of Jesus. Christian authors view them not as mere similitudes that serve the purpose of illustration, but as internal analogies in which nature becomes a witness for the spiritual world." en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parables_of_Jesus https://www.christianbiblereference.org/jparable.htm " It was once said, “religion is designed to comfort the afflicted and to afflict the comfortable.” Jesus’ parables – short stories with moral lessons – were likewise designed to afflict, to draw us in but leave us uncomfortable. These teachings can be read as being about divine love and salvation, sure. But, their first listeners – first century Jews in Galilee and Judea – heard much more challenging messages." https://www.google.com/amp/s/religion.blogs.cnn.com/2014/09/21/four-teachings-from-jesus-that-everybody-gets-wrong/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/02/15/world/four-teachings-from-jesus-everybody-gets-wrong/index.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/opinion/jesus-bible-wealth-free-market-parables-robert-sirico.amp (Edited by AretoNyx) | Religion Chat Room 11 People Chatting Similar Conversations |