When will Evolutionists get it Right? Never! XFixYourBrainX: "Our fingers and toes really did evolve from the fins of ancient fish ... but they do not appear to have any bones that could have gone on to produce digits," says New Scientist yesterday! Last year, evo's claimed in Time mag (4/06, p59) that the Tiktaalik "wrist" bones were the ancestors of our finger bones! Now, they're taking it back! And what's their excuse this time?? "That lack of digits would imply that hands and feet evolved quite abruptly, when animals were making the transition from water to land," says Per Ahlberg of Uppsala University. So, that's it?! They want us to accept -- another "missing link" story they've come up with -- once again -- to excuse the data against their theory!!! Wait -- there's more!! "These fish had lungs and muscular, paired fins." What! Co-discoverer Ted Daeschler did say "it probably had lungs" back in 4/06 ... but that's the only "rumor" I'd even ever heard about Tiktaalik having lungs. So now New Scientist is helping to spread yet another urban myth that supposedly is "proof" of evolution!! http://www.newscientist.com/article/ mg*******4. 700-the-fishy- origin-of- our-fingers- and-toes. html abstrectchrist: dude keep this shit in your other evolution disproofing thread, an unnecessary thread for an unnecessary and obsessively troll like user retaxis: you can believe what you want to believe in i guess. But good luck convincing the universities and high schools, in fact any form of education buddy. bebe_xx: If evolution was REAL we wouldnt consider it a "theory" it would just be fact. anywhooo if you paid attention in class your history teacher, may have mentioned, that there is not physical proof, of evolution. No fossils suggesting an "in-between" stage through monkeys and people. just a bunch of drawings and guesses. no proof. no facts. just guesses... keep guessing. ( ps. don't believe everything you hear on television) bebe_xx: and TEACHERS and PROFESSORS are freakkinn STUPID for ever teaching that crap in a class to be more then just a wild theory. with no more evidence then the bible holds. its just about as crazy of a theory. Lex Hardon: Once again people misunderstanding this word 'theory'. Do you actually know what the word means in a scientific context? And indeed, evolution can be prooven and can actually be OBSERVED to happen. Evolution is FACT. And whats a history teacher doing talking about biology? ♠_Krash_♠: Its not that they dont understand it,i think its more they like to ignore it tony... But here it is again for those who dont know *Scientific Theory* In the sciences, a scientific theory (also called an empirical theory) comprises a collection of concepts, including abstractions of observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules (called scientific laws) that express relationships between observations of such concepts. A scientific theory is constructed to conform to available empirical data about such observations, and is put forth as a principle or body of principles for explaining a class of phenomena. A scientific theory is a type of deductive theory, in that its content (i.e. empirical data) could be expressed within some formal system of logic whose elementary rules (i.e. scientific laws) are taken as axioms. In a deductive theory, any sentence which is a logical consequence of one or more of the axioms is also a sentence of that theory. In the humanities, one finds theories whose subject matter does not (only) concern empirical data, but rather ideas. Such theories are in the realm of philosophical theories as contrasted with scientific theories. A philosophical theory is not necessarily scientifically testable through experiment. XFixYourBrainX: ive been throught this before, blah blah blah people knows what theory means crap. really nobody knows what it really means, does that mean all 6.5 billion of us people on earth dont know what theory means? ROFL Lex Hardon: Here are some other 'theories' that you may be unaware of The theory of gravity (the theory that keeps you anchored to the surface of this planet and stops you floating off into space) & The Heliocentric theory (the theory of how the earth and planets revolve around the sun) Evolution is also observable. john1576: Evolution is a crazy idea. One of the straws Evolutionists grasped at when we began to understand Genetics, was that Animals 'mutated'. But we have now found there is a built in mechanism in Genes that wipe out Mutations after a few generations. XFixYourBrainX: Mutations are rare, what about that disease called elephant disease called that or something. Since mutations are rare, evolution is fake. BAM its figured out Evolution is fake ROFL! Lex Hardon: 'mechanism in Genes that wipe out Mutations after a few generations. ' are dog breeders aware of this? also if this were true, maybe we would have a cure for HIV already. (Its also been observed that bacteria can indeed evolve on average between six and seven bacterial generations per day) XFixYourBrainX: The two scholars, Drs. Peter and Rosemary Grant observed how, under drought conditions, birds with larger beaks were better adapted than others, thus their percentage increased. But this trend reversed when the cyclical conditions reversed. Furthermore, in times of drought, the normally separate species were observed to cross-breed. They are related after all. Darwin was right! But is this really evolution? Even after the changes there is still the same array of beak sizes and shapes. This is variation and adaptation, not evolution. ♠_Krash_♠: Your wasting your time time on pokerhontas tony... He's just doing what he does because he's enjoying himself,if you get my drift ♠_Krash_♠: Wasn't talking to you tough boy Come on admit it though,you get a little excited when you troll the way you do XFixYourBrainX: Actually, de-evolution has occurred; the observation is that there are larger groupings of species into what may be more reminiscent of the originally created kind. Creation agrees with Darwin's observations and with the newer observations, but evolution doesn't, even though the Grants interpret this as rapid evolution. Wonderful study, great data, wrong interpretation | Science Chat Room Similar Conversations |