medicine and health

sidrailyas
sidrailyas: hello everyone.i was thinkin that lets have a platform to discuss medicine,latest improvements in the field and all new which is comming.im always here to start the discussion.everyones welcome medical students who want to discuss subjects they are weak at and non med people as well if you want me to look up for something you wanna know.i would love to talk to you all.
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Serabi
Serabi: Discuss away
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jjasmine
jjasmine: How about the statement mens sana in corpore sano? Do you agree with that - and btw - how long do med-studies in Pakistan take?
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sidrailyas
sidrailyas: happy to see we have people who are interseted here.so everyone tell me what you want to discuss.
im working on bipolar disorders and their medication.its a disorder characterized by mood swings.the patient will feel hours of happiness followed by intense depression.its not like your ordinary blues or normal cycle of ups and downs.and if left untreated it can lead to suicidal tendencies.im trying to find drug treatment for it
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jjasmine
jjasmine: well - my kind of girl - you have just gotten yourself a guinea-pig
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PTBO52
PTBO52: BiPolar is hard to diagnose at first as it can mimic other mental diseases. I believe lithium is used but causes weight gain and tired feeling. Some bipolar patients like the high they get when not taking rx but crash really hard and do tend to become self destructive. I can't remember what other rx is taken with lithium? Are you researching other rx for depression? I find this topic fascinating. Write more!
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sidrailyas
sidrailyas: u are right lithium is the most common drug of choice.since by polar disorder is characterized by episodes of extreme mania and insomnia.so i guess we can give proper medication for that as well as a n adjunct.normally anticonvulsants are also give.but im curious that how much the symptoms have to be advanced that one should suggest electro convulsive therapy.i mean one should wait for how long to see if medication isnt working and switch to the shock treatment..
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sidrailyas
sidrailyas: hmm VOLPROATE.nice link you have given.let me work on it.hey jasmine i just saw so many comments on ur profile.guess it was ur birthday a few days ago.count me in among all the well wishers as well.anyways back to the topic.what were we discussing.ya bipolar disorders
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sidrailyas
sidrailyas: what exactly they do in electroconvulasant treatment
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sidrailyas
sidrailyas: hmmmmmmm.but thanks for giving me the link.i will work on it and will post here .you can also read it.
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sidrailyas
sidrailyas: i think electric stimulation of certain areas may lead to release of neurotransmitrs and they might do the job.but i will do my homework on entire mechanism first.
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PTBO52
PTBO52: I had a friend years ago with bipolar, OCD and chronic depression. Alot of her direct family had these illness's also. They had her on almost every drug you can think of and nothing worked. She was hospitalized alot. Finally, they did shock therapy. At least 3 times in one year and for about a week she would feel OK then start sliding back. This was a very intelligent girl who held a professional position at a Toronto Hospital. She ended up losing her job, ran out of paid sick time and then totally fell of my radar screen. Just up and moved and I have never heard from her since. 14 yrs. ago. I always have a bad feeling when I think of her.
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sidrailyas
sidrailyas: now after telling me this story .you have made the topic more interesting.but i feel sad for your friend.its seems to be a very personality shattering disorder.im working on its treatment.lets see how far we can go in diagnosing and treating it properly.
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PTBO52
PTBO52: Pet scans really show whats happening in the brain. If neurotransmitters are functioning properly but unforunately very few Pet scans are done because of the cost.
Here is another bit of info: a person might be bi-polar but live their life fairly normal until a major crisis happens and then it sets it off
until the person can't cope without Rx.
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sidrailyas
sidrailyas: hmmmm.pets scan a good link.have to look it.

ok so u said that a major crises trigger it.but until then its latent.but how do u know its latent if u cant see the symptoms.let me check on this piece of info as well.thanks
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PTBO52
PTBO52: What I mean by latent, the person might seem high-spirited but within normal boundaries. Then a major crisis like a death, losing a long time job, moving seems to trigger either a major depressive disorder or bi-polar or other disorders. Alot of these people are predisposed to these disorders. As long as the boat wasn't rocked they could maintain.
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Spirit One
Spirit One: Mental illnesses are caused from years of wrong eating ,If you put muddy water in your fuel tank ,don't expect your vehicle to run to good ,look at your lifestyle and eating habits ,do you smoke ,consume alcoholic spirits ,eat lots of fatty fried foods ,don't drink water ,don't have a healthy sleep pattern ? all of these things contribute greatly to Depression ,sights ,sounds and memories are all triggers for depression ,take care of the causes and the rest will disappear.
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Serabi
Serabi: whydontyoustayofftopicsyoudonthaveaclueabout? youspreadyourdrivelalloverdontyourealisethatyouaremakinganassofyourself?
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Goran
Goran: Spirit has a ton of mud built up in his fuel tank. Hey, I didn't say that causes mental illness. He did.
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PTBO52
PTBO52: OK, I have never really posted an angry message but this one I can't let it go. Spirit, I know you have your own beliefs and religion but to make a statement that if everyone ate better, didn't drink alcohol, smoked blaaa there wouldn't be any mental illness is absurd. If thats all there was to it we all would be cured. Do you really know what mental illness's are? Bi-polar, chronic depression, borderline personality disorder, anorexia, OCD and on and on. Yes some of lets say depression can be blamed on drugs and alcohol BUT there again are ppl trying to self medicate to aleve the depression??? In alot of cases yes.
Do you know what would happen if someone decided to go off their Rx and just follow your advice? You would have no idea the consequences they would suffer. So, by making those statements; I feel they are dangerous.
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PTBO52
PTBO52: Solaris: OMG I'm still laughing, I guess that means The Big Whopper meal deal I had today means I'm history lol.

I'm not making light of the content of the posts in any way but I have a weird sense of humour and I don't find too many things funny but Solaris's comment struck me so funny. All in the timing!
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sidrailyas
sidrailyas: well hold on guys.comeback.leave poor spirit alone.

ok spirit let me tell u the meal habbits and sleeping patterns are the aggrevating factors or sometimes symptoms of many deppression and anxieties.but what we are discussing here is a bipolar disorder.to trigger such a mental illness there has to be a strong stimulus like a death of someone related or economical problems e.t.c if the stimulus is intense enough it disturbs the brain neurotransmmitter balance and results in a severe mental disability.sleeping or meal patterns can help but sorry to say they are minor factors.i would have loved to say that they can help in disorder like this but they alone cant.one has to go for chemotherapy or if not then shock therapy.
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sidrailyas
sidrailyas: thanks everyone .you all have been a tremendous help.i have accumalated alot of info on bipolar disorder and its treatment.whoever is intersted is more than welcome to discuss it with me.i was thinking to move to another topic .but if you want to discuss it more ar have any point which you want to clear.then we can discuss .its ur call.have fun.cheers
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PTBO52
PTBO52: I found this topic to be very stimulating and let me actually post something I know about although I'm not a Dr. I was very upset to have it turn into a farce. Spirit if you had posted your thoughts in aless hostile way it could have made a big difference. I'm sorry it happened and disappointed too.
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Spirit One
Spirit One: M-S is a Neurological disorder ,most {not all } suffering from it bring it on themselves by consuming products with the artificial sweetener ASPERTAME { Sold By MONSANTO CORP. as ant poison and listed as a Neurotoxin } it's in Diet soda and sugar free products all over the inside shelves of Supermarkets around the world .it is a substance that NEVER leaves your system { There are many such chemicals ,I think the FDA knows of over 600 INDUSTRIAL chemicals in the food supply } even antifreeze is being used as an artificial sweetener {That stuff will kill your pets and it's supposed to be okay for Human consumption ?} It's in Canned biscuits and cake mixes -just look for ETHYLENE GLYCOL -most of these things weren't in the food 10 yrs ago ,I Apologize for last comments ,just don't like being told I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT ,I'm Very knowledgeable about medicine ,Oh ! I read about a man who went through a nursing home and was astonished at the number of young patients in there {most were in the 30-50 range }all suffering from M-S ,33 of them ,he found they were all consuming Aspartame daily ,all on a sugar free diet ,took away the Aspartame ,all but 5 recovered back to functioning members in society ,the other 5 have PERMANENT damage .Look at what your consuming is wise advice for all - if you eat crap you will develop health problems then you're at the mercy of the medical system and pill Pushers Never to late to get healthy ANYONE can turn their health around for the better ,10 yrs ago I was diagnosed with Asbestosis and Mesothelioma ,the Dr's told me I would be dead in a couple yrs if I didn't start aggressive TREATMENTS ,I turned My life around that day -It has nothing to do with my belief -that came later ,If you met me in person you wouldn't know I have Lung Cancer ,I use a NATURAL cold N flu CURE Daily ,it keeps me breathing without Oxygen ,It also works as a Cold-n-Flu Preventative and cure .The recipe is on the Alternative Medicine Club Site if anyone wants it
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sidrailyas
sidrailyas: well good one this time.spirit.
now i would like to meet you in person
anyways you have given us a nice starting point for discussion.i am stirred now.let me do little homework on aspartame poisoning.will come back to you.thanks again for adding this piece of info here on forum.
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