Jupiter (Page 2)

Page2000
Page2000: I wonder if any link has ever been found between earth's weather systems and those of the stormy giant.
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LiptonCambell
LiptonCambell: Link? I don't follow....like, they mirror our weather system? Or they have weather like our own?
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duncan124
duncan124:
I think the idea was Jupiter caused changes to the weather on Earth.

Neptune was discovered after the British Govt wanted to know were the stars changing the tides; I seem to remember hearing somewhere.

I wonder if there are any links on the web?
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duncan124
duncan124:
Earth-climate has this about the planets.

"2.  THE PLANETS CAUSE THE CYCLES:   Why are temperatures on Earth apparently following cyclical patterns that correlate with certain orbital events of the moon and the planets, primarily Jupiter, Venus and Saturn? 

Consider, firstly, the effect of gravitational energy which the Earth receives from the moon.  It pulls ocean waters forming tides and ocean currents.  Inside the liquid core it must also cause huge currents and tides as the Earth spins and the moon orbits it.  The friction in all this motion generates massive heat.  The total energy received from the sun's heat and light is almost insignificant compared with the energy coming from the force of gravity from the moon and sun upon Earth. 

There is also a gravitational force coming from each of the planets and these forces fluctuate as the distance varies.  Now the Earth's distances from the moon and sun do not vary anywhere near as much relatively as its distance from Jupiter in particular. 

The latter distance varies from about four times the distance of the Earth from the sun to about 6.5 times that distance.  So, even though Jupiter is further away, it is much larger than the moon and its relative motion towards and away from the Earth magnifies the effect of changes in the gravitational acceleration which it imparts upon the Earth. 

Now, when Saturn is pulling in exactly the opposite direction to Jupiter, its gravity will reduce the effect of that from Jupiter.  Then, as they continue in their orbits, there will be less of a reduction until, about 15 years later, Saturn will start to pull together with Jupiter, producing the strongest combined effect another 15 years later. 

Then, about 30 years later, the Earth will again be aligned between Jupiter and Saturn.  This complete cycle is currently happening about every 59.6 years causing our "60-year" cycles which are superimposed on the 934 year long term cycle.  Sunspots appear to correlate as they may be caused by variations in planetary magnetic fields. 

It does seem plausible that variations in solar winds cause reactions in the ionosphere which, in turn, could affect cloud cover and thus climate.  This is being investigated at present.  Another possibility is that gravity from Jupiter and Saturn causes ocean currents that produce the 60 year cycles in the Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) and, as discussed here, there appears to be a correlation between the PDO and cloud cover. 

Some other possibilites are suggested in Notes 5 to 8 below." http://www.earth-climate.com

By changing the tides they can effect the weather. Another idea was that the gas planets effect the gases such as the air and sky.
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duncan124
duncan124:
A moon eclipses Jupiter seen from Earth. As Jupiter has so many moons it must be happening all the time, but there is a nice animated sequence here;-

http://www.universetoday.com/117659/marvelleous-moondance-jupiter-satellites-caught-eclipsing-and-transiting/
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duncan124
duncan124:
While Businessinsider takes the opportunity to dig for a ' Death-Star ', as you might have expected.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/jupiter-moon-io-on-earth-and-north-america-2014-12?r=US
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duncan124
duncan124:

Photos of the moons crossing Jupiter along with comments can be found here;-

i.imgur.com/oOuzUIR.jpg

www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/2r4hfe/i_captured_europa_and_io_casting_shadows_on/
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Page2000
Page2000: Maybe this gravitational tug-a-war between Jupiter and Saturn is how Mars lost it's atmosphere!
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duncan124
duncan124:
Jupiter is now at its closest and can't be missed in the night sky.

http://astronomynow.com/2015/02/02/jupiter-takes-centre-stage-see-the-largest-planet-at-its-best/#

Any gravitational effects would surely be felt about now.
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duncan124
duncan124:

Life on Jupiters moon called ' Europa', or a stupid ploy to interest people in the next part of the 'plan'??

http://www.vox.com/2015/2/16/8045979/europa-moon-jupiter

YouTube
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duncan124
duncan124:

NASA sees spots on Ceres!

http://en.es-static.us/upl/2015/02/ceres-double-bright-spots-feb19-2015-e1424906144834.jpg

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2015/02/26/that-spooky-white-spot-on-ceres-new-photos-show-two-of-them/

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceres_(dwarf_planet)
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duncan124
duncan124:

It could be that it is a secret base for Humaniods!

NASA certainly had designs on the thousands of moons and objects that circle Jupiter. The idea of hiding out amongst the many moons was thought to appeal to the US public.

Perhaps a more possible explanation of the spots is the discovery of water in space.

This far more easily acceptable scientific theory then the water on the moon search predicts that amongst many moving objects and moons water will be created by the many small collisions.

Ceres, with its watery name, could be surrounded by a sea of water molecules.
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duncan124
duncan124:
Ceres was in mythology the daughter of Jupiters sister and the only God to interfere continually in human affairs.

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duncan124
duncan124:
"Scientists using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope have discovered the best evidence yet for an underground saltwater ocean on Ganymede, Jupiter’s largest moon. The subterranean ocean is thought to have more water than all the water on Earth’s surface."Earthsky.

False.

Water underground beneath and above ice will freeze. There is no reason for it not to. But interestingly NASA draws a line between all the water and all the water on Earths surface.
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duncan124
duncan124:

Jupiter Wolf Tone coming at you??
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duncan124
duncan124:

"Jupiter's opposition period for 2016 has now begun - retrograde motion started on January 8th"

http://freestarcharts.com/the-planets-this-month/19-news-and-current-events/482-jupiter-s-opposition-period-for-2016-has-now-begun-retrograde-motion-started-on-january-8th


Freestarcharts helps with diagrams and charts as Jupiter motion becomes retrograde.


It is interesting to compare this with some peoples view of politics where there are only two views or parties.

Counties such as Italy where they have had many different Gods tend to have many views of the political situation at any given time.

https://www.sagegoddess.com/the-power-of-jupiter-in-retrograde/

Do the planets effect us??
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duncan124
duncan124:

Jupiter inspired the ancient Babylonians to use maths to track its movements across the skies.

http://arstechnica.co.uk/science/2016/01/babylonians-tracked-jupiter-with-sophisticated-geometrical-math/
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duncan124
duncan124:

"... Jupiter reaches 'opposition', and this will bring it to its closest point from Earth in 2016. The huge, gassy planet is expected to come within 664 million kilometres (413 million miles) of our planet on the night of March 8, ..."

http://www.sciencealert.com/look-up-jupiter-is-about-to-put-on-its-best-show-of-the-year

Jupiter gets close ready for the asteroid,solar eclipse and super moon around March 8th.
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duncan124
duncan124:

Two astronomers observe bright impact on Jupiter on the 17th of March.


http://news.discovery.com/space/astronomy/jupiter-got-smashed-by-a-speeding-space-rock-160329.htm

....and others.

It might on the other hand be just a bright reflection as Jupiter is prone to them. And NASA has been promoting views of Jupiter recently....
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duncan124
duncan124:


Less energy equals less storm on Jupiter??


"The biggest storm in the solar system is shrinking. Since mid-May, Jupiter's Great Red Spot has contracted a startling 3000 km, reducing the size of the anti-cyclone by more than 20%. This 10-day movie created by Marco Vedovato of the JUPOS Project shows what's happening:" Spaceweather.com 07.06.19

http://pianeti.uai.it/index.php/Jupiter:_2019_Animated_gif

So the Solar Minimum is providing a link between Earths and the stormy giants weather system??
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