Most atheists dont know about science (Page 139) Blackshoes: Kitty is always claiming that sexual reproduction is the engine that drives Macroevolution throught mutations . If you understood even a little about DNA and life ', there's no way around the evidence ', Abiogenesis is impossible and Macroevolution has become a joke ! "What Does Evolution Teach About Mutations? Pond-scum-to-people evolution teaches that, over time, by natural causes, nonliving chemicals gave rise to a living cell. Then, this single-celled life form gave rise to more advanced life forms. In essence, over millions of years, increases in information caused by mutations plus natural selection developed all the life forms we see on earth today. For molecules-to-man evolution to happen, there needs to be a gain in new information within the organism’s genetic material. For instance, for a single-celled organism, such as an amoeba, to evolve into something like a cow, new information (not random base pairs, but complex and ordered DNA) would need to develop over time that would code for ears, lungs, brain, legs, etc. If an amoeba were to make a change like this, the DNA would need to mutate new information. (Currently, an amoeba has limited genetic information, such as the information for protoplasm.) This increase of new information would need to continue in order for a heart, kidneys, etc., to develop. If a DNA strand gets larger due to a mutation, but the sequence doesn’t code for anything (e.g., it doesn’t contain information for working lungs, heart, etc.), then the amount of DNA added is useless and would be more of a hindrance than a help. There have been a few arguable cases of information-gaining mutations, but for evolution to be true, there would need to be billions of them. the fact is, we don’t observe this in nature, but rather we see the opposite – organisms losing information. Organisms are changing, but the change is in the wrong direction! How can losses of information add up to a gain? Conclusion … Observations confirm that mutations overwhelmingly cause a loss of information, not a new gain, as evolution requires." https://jmshistorycorner.wordpress.com/2019/03/07/mutations-the-engine-of-evolution/comment-page-1/ (Edited by Blackshoes) Blackshoes: Wrong ! God is something Abiogenesis is impossible .. Nothing can come from nothing ! Creation is the only logical and reasonable answer to all we see . Creation is the only thing that makes any real sense '. Creation is the only thing that explains DNA and the complexity of Life Creation is the only possibility that make sense to the fine tuning of the universe . Atheist are more faithful than religions', believing that the impossible can some how be possible when they claim that Abiogenesis is plausible (Edited by Blackshoes) Blackshoes: I 've already answered more than I should 'within a science forum ,about faith ! You maybe just looking to get forum deleted by speaking off topic ? (Edited by Blackshoes) Blackshoes: I've already answers all your questions', more than once within the religion forums You don't have to agree with the answers . No more than I have to agree with you (Edited by Blackshoes)  Angry Beaver: BS just copy/pastes reams of drivel and shuts the whole thread down with his innimical debating style. Not unlike the pigeon and the game of chess . Blackshoes: I show real science information that most evolutionist have either never come in contact with or just refuse to read .. If you do nothing but constantly preach the Pseudoscience of ToE ..Endlessly insult and criticize the truth and those that tell it . Almost always cliaming creationist are idiots .. What choice do I have other than show how false ToE is with the articles and actual science ? I take no pleasure that Evolutionist cannot express their views with science and can only come here with opinions and assumptions .. Endlessly preaching what they've been told by they're gods of academia .. I've done my best to accommodate your short attention span with short to the point videos and still all I receive is insults.. If you don't like the science facts ? Go away ! (Edited by Blackshoes) Angry Beaver: offers up an insult and complains about being insulted!! "I've done my best to accommodate your short attention span with short to the point videos and still all I receive is insults.. If you don't like the science facts ? Go away !" You are honestly unbelievably arrogant dude. You are shown scientific papers and the like and only ever reply "abiogenesis is impossible", you never refute the points with counterpoints, just spew out page after page of copy/pasted bs and arrogantly proclaim "I speak the truth".... that's why you will never be taken seriously, honestly, try a little humility as your field manual instructs you Proverbs 26:12 ESV Do you see a man who is wise in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him. Proverbs 27:2 ESV Let another praise you, and not your own mouth; a stranger, and not your own lips. See your own handbook tells you not to be a damned skite (Edited by Angry Beaver) Angry Beaver: http://mb-soft.com/public3/arroganc.html Here they describe blackshoes: Many modern Christians, especially a lot of Fundamental Christians, are amazingly aggressive and arrogant regarding claiming that every single detail of whatever they believe is absolutely right and cannot be questioned under any circumstances. NO ONE better dare even question any aspect of whatever they believe. Again, having deep Faith SHOULD mean that you really believe what you believe. But when it goes too far, it becomes a sort of Arrogance, something that Jesus and the Bible Taught us to be cautious about. I truly wonder if such Arrogant Christians even have any clue what it means to have Humility, or to be Tolerant or Compassionate! Several Scriptural Passages directly address the issue of Arrogance, including 1Samuel 2:3; Psalms 12:4; Proverbs 8:13; Isaiah 13:11. These (and other) Scriptures warn against become arrogant in any regard. This includes our Faith. Now go back, read your bible and practice what they preach......there's a good chap Blackshoes: Again angry you said you were Leaving ! Yet: you continue to troll and self justify everyone of your post  Buy a mirror ! Just as you stole my profile picture and misrepresent my image so as falsely accuse me from your prudish self righteous acting .. You're right about one thing', within the mind of mankind , I'm a good chap  Just so typical of evolutionist need to find fault with those that state the facts and evidence that overwhelmingly show how ridiclous and unscientific Macroevolution is . All the wile thinking themselves wise  . never understanding or getting a clue to how ludicrous and off topic it is .Evolutionists are little more than worshipers of Academia . Teaching evolution in a science class without any real basis other than the faith of those that believe it is no less than teaching the dogmas and doctrines of any other religion ! (Edited by Blackshoes) Angry Beaver: Never said any such thing on this thread, so just stop your spurious lies again please... and no, you are prideful and arrogant just like in that page i posted... How did I misrepresent your image, was that indeed not you? ooops "You're right about one thing', within the mind of mankind , I'm a good chap" baahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha and LOL (Edited by Angry Beaver) Angry Beaver: Prudish? nar, evolutionist? nar, think myself wise? nar.... Mate you got a bad case of judgemental arsehole going on there, are you sure u ain't jesus?? or maybe even  god?? cos i thought only them sods were allowed to judge?? (Post deleted by Blackshoes ) Angry Beaver: I said...........was that a pic of you or not??? Because i wrote blackie with it, this misrepresents, HOW?  Can you not read properly written English? God knows you can't write it Angry Beaver: Your a pathetic pseudo christian,not above blowing your own trumpet and petty posting just so you can pretend you're sagacious and all knowing... What a loser... Blackshoes: What matters is that many Evolutionist cannot accept the Science facts and evidence ! Evolutionist just have to deal' with why that is within themselves ? I can only tell the truth . It's up to Evolutionist to fix themselves ! I would suggest Evolutionary atheist ask for help . However: I'm pretty sure their ego and pride will reject any help from on high I already know better Note this ; some of the greatest minds in history ', such as Sir Isaac Newton and many others were not afflicted with such blindness or arrogance . "From this fountain (the free will of God) it is those laws, which we call the laws of nature, have flowed, in which there appear many traces of the most wise contrivance, but not the least shadow of necessity. These therefore we must not seek from uncertain conjectures, but learn them from observations and experimental. He who is presumptuous enough to think that he can find the true principles of physics and the laws of natural things by the force alone of his own mind, and the internal light of his reason, must either suppose the world exists by necessity, and by the same necessity follows the law proposed; or if the order of Nature was established by the will of God, the [man] himself, a miserable reptile, can tell what was fittest to be done. " Sir Isaac Newton "I build molecules for a living. I can't begin to tell you how difficult that job is. I stand in awe of God because of what he has done through his creation. My faith has been increased through my research. Only a rookie who knows nothing about science would say science takes away from faith. If you really study science, it will bring you closer to God. " James Tour "There are gaps in the fossil graveyard, places where there should be intermediate forms, but where there is nothing whatsoever instead. No paleontologist..denies that this is so. It is simply a fact, Darwin's theory and the fossil record are in conflict." David Berlinski "Evolution has just been dealt its death blow. After reading Origins of Life with my background in chemistry and physics, it is clear that biological evolution could not have occurred. " Richard Smalley "You cannot change how someone thinks, but you can give them a tool to use which will lead them to think differently. " R. Buckminster Fulle  ghostgeek: If it was established that there was no God, would anyone be contradicting the Theory of Evolution? As it happens, I might, but what about all those Bible thumpers? ghostgeek: It's quite obvious that the phenomena that's described in the Book of Exodus exists in the modern world, so why shouldn't it have existed thousands of years ago? No reason that I can see. Therefore I reject the Bible as evidence for the existence of God. 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