Most atheists dont know about science (Page 46) Blackshoes: Again you reject every science fact in lieu of assumption  " Evolution Is Not Happening Now First of all, the lack of a case for evolution is clear from the fact that no one has ever seen it happen. If it were a real process, evolution should still be occurring, and there should be many "transitional" forms that we could observe. What we see instead, of course, is an array of distinct "kinds" of plants and animals with many varieties within each kind, but with very clear and -- apparently -- unbridgeable gaps between the kinds. That is, for example, there are many varieties of dogs and many varieties of cats, but no "dats" or "cogs." Such variation is often called microevolution, and these minor horizontal (or downward) changes occur fairly often, but such changes are not true "vertical" evolution. Evolutionary geneticists have often experimented on fruit flies and other rapidly reproducing species to induce mutational changes hoping they would lead to new and better species, but these have all failed to accomplish their goal. No truly new species has ever been produced, let alone a new "basic kind." A current leading evolutionist, Jeffrey Schwartz, professor of anthropology at the University of Pittsburgh, has recently acknowledged that: . . . it was and still is the case that, with the exception of Dobzhansky's claim about a new species of fruit fly, the formation of a new species, by any mechanism, has never been observed.1 The scientific method traditionally has required experimental observation and replication. The fact that macroevolution (as distinct from microevolution) has never been observed would seem to exclude it from the domain of true science. Even Ernst Mayr, the dean of living evolutionists, longtime professor of biology at Harvard, who has alleged that evolution is a "simple fact," nevertheless agrees that it is an "historical science" for which "laws and experiments are inappropriate techniques"2 by which to explain it. One can never actually see evolution in action." (Edited by Blackshoes)  kittybobo34: You can't see the hour hand on the clock change ether, but come back a few hours later , and there are vast changes. The fossil record is our pictures of the past evolutionary clock.. Blackshoes: Yet; You're unable to show that type Macroevolutionary change either within Microbiology or any observations. Minute changes within microevolution does not prove your theory ! Microevolutionary change has never within any reseach over come the genetic roadblocks that end any possibility to your macroevolutionary assumption .Dead end ! In other words Impossible ! It only proves microevolution. Nothing more without assumptions added . That's just one of the many issues that show how evolutionary paradigms fail the science test.. (Edited by Blackshoes) kittybobo34: So the changes in horses, whales, Dinosaurs to today's, Ice age mammals to todays mammals, You don't consider any of those macro changes? Blackshoes: You assume those are Marco changes .. It's neither proven or logical . Yes Yes Your experts all say it happen Wile other experts say it didn't So much like todays Media circus . What does one believe ? As for Me I believe the truth ,, Of course you'll retort', what is the truth ! truth [tro͞oTH] NOUN the quality or state of being true. "he had to accept the truth of her accusation" synonyms: veracity · truthfulness · verity · sincerity · candor · honesty · genuineness · gospel · gospel truth · accuracy · correctness · rightness · validity · factualness · factuality · [more] (the truth) that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality. "tell me the truth" · [more] synonyms: the fact of the matter · what actually/really happened · the case · so · gospel · gospel truth · God's truth · the honest truth · fact(s) · reality · real life · actuality a fact or belief that is accepted as true. "the emergence of scientific truths" synonyms: fact · verity · certainty · certitude · law · principle (Edited by Blackshoes) Blackshoes: But I was ! and can be wrong I never claimed to be Omniscience I have and will always be willing to listen and examine the fact , science, and information so as openminded and curious , Forever guarding against my own presupposition and bias (Edited by Blackshoes) kittybobo34: Then your first step is to show some discretion in the sources of your information. We have shown you so many places where you were lied to , but you still trust those sources. That is what doesnt make sense to me. Blackshoes: Again: You worry and allow your bias assumption and other voices to make such claims Much of the science I've posted comes from evolutionary sources .. You reject everything they say also if it disagrees with you beliefs ', in lieu of your bias Your faith is untouchable You 've become condition only to accept what you been told to believe You're Blind to another explanation other than a naturalistic one I don't believe that life exist off world ! But I also would love to know if it does ? I love to see real evidence of ET . However other than eye witness that are often Questionable they remains no hard evidence (Edited by Blackshoes) kittybobo34: Some of it may come from real scientists, but its taken out of context and is full of factual lies, and some is just very old and outdated. In reading most of it, I can't get through a single paragraph without running into a factual error. They want to convince you of their point of view, but they can't do it without twisting the science into falsehoods. Blackshoes: So your scientist are Lying ? It's their Words ! Not mine or the writers of the articles .. Yes the writer leave out their added assumptions and opinions ! That's not a lie that just common sense.. Evolutionist do the same thing with creationist ! Almost every evolutionistic article claims all creationist are idiots or religious fanatics (Edited by Blackshoes) kittybobo34: Every one of those so called scientists that said something incorrect are not scientists in the field that they are talking about or are not really scientists at all. I have pointed out the lies and errors many times. Creationists sites have been doing this for years, paying people to say what they want. Twisting the truth around. It works great on people that don't understand the actual science. Not too well with people familiar with the subject. You can pay someone to say 2+2= 5, and put some impressive labels on his name, but 2+2 still does not =5 Blackshoes: Where do you get your information ? Hearsay means nothing ! You have never shown anything other than assumption ! I've asked you often too bring me something that is real science . It's a fact that your entire theory is based In assumption ,, No matter how many degrees they hang on the wall .. (Edited by Blackshoes) kittybobo34: My information is my own education. I have a strong science background, both in Anthropology, Geology, Organic chemisty, and Physics. You can take most of the stuff you are reading on the creationist sites and toss it in the garbage for what it's worth. Blackshoes: So do all the evolutionary scientists I've quoted from Odd you say that" What the worker have rejected I have lifted up " (Edited by Blackshoes) Blackshoes: It doesn 't matter what I've presented here or in anyother forum from evolutionary scientist or from any other source .You are unable to see beyond your programming ! I tell the truth ! Whether you agree or disagree you cannot show any evidence with out mountains of added opinion and assuption ! 'You're theory is nothing more than a false pseudosicence ! (Edited by Blackshoes) kittybobo34: Our programming as you call it is an education as to how the science works and why. How its proved each step of the way in using the tools that it uses and its conclusions. Your programming is based on superstition and half truths. Blackshoes: You're programming rejects all real science in lieu of you're faithful adherence to your religion .. Name one thing within Macroevolution not based in assumptions speculations or opinions ! (Edited by Blackshoes) kittybobo34: Dating, the physics of dating are not speculations or assumptions. Lion/ Tiger mating, It is not an assumption that they are different species. The fact that they can still mate proves they are related, and that the offspring is a throwback to a previous version, in that case the Cave Lion of the ice age. Macro evolution as you call it, takes a very long time, this is an example of a short window into that world. | Science Chat Room 1 Person Chatting Similar Conversations |
