Are you intelligent enough? (Page 3) StuckInTheSixties: Don't expect to be taken seriously unless you can provide credible answers to reasonable questions. (Edited by StuckInTheSixties)  Quantum zero: Psychogenesis? The mental ability to change ones own genetics? Indirectly I do believe its possible, yes. but it involves certain manipulations with light/energy. Am i intelligent enough to follow the video? yes, of course! IF i disagree with the whole summation of its contents does that automaticlly make me unintelligent? Obviously NOT!! Words the world over have been taken out of context. I cant speak intelligently about other languages cos i dont know any. Only english for me. And i believe thats a huge crux for everyone else who speaks or only speaks english. Take, for example, the word "criticise". Does everyone believe that word means to dismiss or put down any given idea? Well, I dont! To criticise is to be critical. That which is critical is that which is essential. I personally feel it IS essential to question everything! how else can one learn? Now, regarding any and ALL what seem to be more commonly called "conspiracy theories", I do of course believe there ARE truthes to many of them. Unfortunately, however there seems to be a lot if disinformation laced through a lot of whats out there. and again, unfortunately, I also believe theres another factor that that seems to have thrown in a whole other level of confusion into the whole "alternative view" world, and that is human perception. The single most powerful sense humans have, and also, possibly unfortunately, a perceptive point of view that is fundamently unique to every soul on this realm of existence!. Having said all that I do firmly believe there are wonders on this world, AND all through this universe, and every other universe, if the scientists are correct in that analysis, that that could humble and awe any soul in eistence! And do i believe the pleidians video? Well, I wont discount ANYthing without a good reason. I try to remain open to all possibilities! I know there HAS to be truthes out there, but equally I also feel there are truthes in all of our own hearts! StuckInTheSixties: You guys are apparently confusing the word "psychogenesis" with something else. Here's the short Wiki article on it, which is essentially a definition of the word: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychogenesis A Google search on the word shows numerous other sources defining the word in the same way. It basically means having your body develop physical symptoms of an illness you imagine you have. It has nothing whatsoever to do with DNA or "genetics". (Edited by StuckInTheSixties) Quantum zero: With respect, SITS, those definitions are apparently incorrect! Genesis is, as far as I know, latin for creation. The hypochondria condition is another name that I dont know. Im not religious in any way, but the first book of the bible is called genesis, which IS about creation! Ive heard too many times now that wikipedia has information that is either incorrect due to lack of education or incorrect due to disinformation. Also a wiki file is a file that anybody, you, me, or anyone else, can edit and change. I can accept that I CAN be wrong, of course! I wouldnt be very open to learning, and change if I didnt. I agree with supreme aswell! One other thing is that analyses of latin, and todays english language have demonstrated that tosays english language is vague perhaps in the extreme compared to the values, customs, and lifestyles expressed by analyses of the old latin language. A language that is EVERYWHERE in scientific circles, and YET is called an extinct language. Cant help thinking that todays english language restricts ALL of our expression of our truthes, and effective communication levels. Its certainly food for thought, for me anyway! Love and peace to ALL! StuckInTheSixties: With respect, you're wrong. It was easy to Google up a "Latin-English/Englis-Latin" translator. http://www.stars21.com/translator/ (There are numerous others, as well.) The latin word for "creation" is "creatio," not "genesis." "genesis" isn't even a Latin word at all. Apparently you missed this line in my above post: "A Google search on the word [psychogenesis] shows numerous other sources defining the word in the same way." You didn't Google it, did you? No need to take my word for any of this. Go ahead, Google it for yourself. Quantum zero: I got no conclusive results SITS. I am perfectly prepared to accept that I am wrong, but also I believe anyone CAN be wrong! StuckInTheSixties: Google: "psychogenesis" : From the resulting list of references on page one of that search: #1. The Wiki article for which a link was provided above. #2. http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/psychogenesis ~~ 1. The origin and development of psychological processes, personality, or behavior. ~~ 2. Development of a physical disorder or illness resulting from psychic, rather than physiological, factors. #3. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/psychogenesis ~~ 1: the origin and development of mental functions, traits, or states ~~ 2: development from mental as distinguished from physical origins #4. http://zero-point.tripod.com/psycho/genesis.html Some flakey website talking about "21st Century Alchemy A Journey through Inner Realms of Wonder and Imagination via Modern Iconography and Recycled Imagery" (laughs) It's entirely possible that Pokerman was referring to this stuff. #5. http://psychogenesis.thinkertothinker.com/ Apparently "Psychogenesis" was the title of a blog that the website "suspended" (deleted). #6. http://www.psychogenesis.com.au/ Apparently a musician or group from Australia #7. http://www.amazon.com/Psychogenesis-Mental-Disease-Collected-Bollingen/dp/0691018596 A book titled: "The Psychogenesis of Mental Disease (The Collected Works of C.G. Jung, Vol. 3 / Bollingen Series, No. 20) This appears to be using the same definition as #1 and #2. #8, #9 and #10 are again, music related. Although there are obviously a number of references here where someone is using the term loosely (the "alchemy" and music websites), the technical usage for the term is what I said it was. It's noteworthy that the top two references are of that usage. If you're familiar with Pokerman, who created this thread with that loony video, and who suddenly took an abrupt left turn with the psychogenesis question, you'll know it's impossible, at this point, to know what the heck he was referring to. In fact, regular readers of Pokerman posts will know that even were he to elaborate on what it was he was referring to, odds are good that it still won't make much sense. But it certainly has nothing to do with genetics, nor is it Latin, etc. (Edited by StuckInTheSixties) Quantum zero: Like I said in me last post. I dont mind that I can make mistakes. I welcome them! I cant really be open to learning more IF I cant/wont accept that I CAN make mistakes! Im not familiar with pokerman. I didnt even read all the posts on this thread. I was only trying to express my own view, and understanding of the meaning of the word psychogenesis. Obviously I have limited knowledge!  XFixYourBrainX: Here you go sixties, Psychogenesis 1. genesis of the psyche. 2. Psychol. the origin of physical or psychological states, normal or abnormal,out of the interplay of conscious and unconscious psychological forces. 3. Pathol. the origin of symptoms as a result of emotional causes. Origin: 1830–40; < Neo-Latin; see psycho-,-genesis StuckInTheSixties: For the billionth time, Pokerman, what is your reference? From where did you obtain this information? StuckInTheSixties: Nevermind, I found your source: dictionary.com You, and the dictionary, offer several distinctly different usages of the word (I've displayed it so that it makes more sense) : psy·cho·gen·e·sis [sahy-kuh-jen-uh-sis] Show IPA noun 1. genesis of the psyche. 2. Psychology . the origin of physical or psychological states, normal or abnormal, out of the interplay of conscious and unconscious psychological forces. 3. Pathology . the origin of symptoms as a result of emotional causes. Which of these do you refer to in your initial reference to that word?  Ka Nine: If you watch it all and believe it does it mean that you are retarded or just merely stupid?  Deus Ex Machina: If HE was intelligent .... he would NOT have posted that video. And I say so calmly and willingly before, or rather, instead, of watching that video. Imagine you land on a planet where the aliens are a less advanced civilization, but able to comunicate with you through your knowledge of their language, like earth in the middle ages or during the roman empire. Would you talk them into believing you were an advanced being, or would you more efectively SHOW them something that would prove it, like your titanium watch with saphire crystal and digital display, or EXPLAIN something to them like how to create a lens and watch planets or some minor (for us) scientific discovery that would prove you were IN FACT more advanced? As stated before, if someone is an alien, he/she/it should start by explaining how he got here. What technology he used. What did he use for fuel. Something like that that our scientists could decipher for us and make us realise, quite simply and undisputably that he was speaking the truth. NOT resort to our ability for faith in his premisse. Faith is a long distance away from truth. StuckInTheSixties: deus_says says: "Imagine you land on a planet where the aliens are a less advanced civilization, but able to comunicate with you through your knowledge of their language, like earth in the middle ages or during the roman empire." I think both of those scenarios were used on Star Trek. (laughs) | Science Chat Room 3 People Chatting Similar Conversations |
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