The Star. (Page 4)

duncan124:

As the Sun has north and south coronal holes again, if not one large hole which is rotating around the Sun, the ' mini ice age ' idea catches on and parallels are drawn with history.

"As you would expect, the weather cooled in both summer and winter.

Paintings of England’s Thames River show it frozen over. Ice carnivals were held annually on the Thames starting in 1607 lasting until 1814.

Canals froze solid in Holland.

Heavier than normal snowfalls particularly during the winters of 1665, 1744 and 1886. At times, there were reports of snow on the ground well into the summer months.

In Holland during the winter of 1794-95, the Dutch fleet was frozen in the Den Helder harbour.

The New York harbour froze in 1780 allowing people to walk across the ice from Manhattan to Staten Island.

Violent storms rocked Europe bringing with it serious flooding and loss of life.

Famines...."

http://opentheword.org/2014/01/30/sun-has-gone-quiet-scientists-concerned-mini-ice-age-is-looming/

Corwin: Keep in mind that "opentheword.org" is a biblical site, NOT a reputable Science journal.

The correlation between reduced sunspot activity and reduced global temperatures is purely speculative. That article does not once suggest a climatic mechanism that causes this, nor do they establish causation in any way. They only make reference to a single cooling trend in medieval times and suggest that reduced sunspot activity is to blame.

We could use the same reasoning and suggest that the medieval cooling trend caused reduced sunspot activity. Very bad Science.

Batman809: can ufos survive if they crashed in a star

sprocket girl:
Having visited NY harbor it is hard to imagine it frozen solid enough to walk across it. Some big waves out there. Pretty wild, would have loved to have seen that.

The Thames, in the London area had frozen over 24 times prior to the 19th century. Or frozen over partially anyhow. The current water enbankments and the New London Bridge allowing the water to flow faster renders this, unless a etreme cold front, strictly a thing of the past. Though still possible. A freeze like 1683 would probably freeze it. The Frost Fairs are pretty well renowned and there is a lot of information about them. In 1814 the walked an elephant across it around the Blackfriars Bridge area. That fair lasted four days. It must have been frozen pretty solid.

sprocket girl:
One claim is that the "littlei ice age" climate cooling from 1600-1850 was aprtially cause by a lot of volcanic erruptions . It followed the warm dark ages "midevil climate optimum". And I guess some claim ash from variuos volcanic erruptions during the time period clouded the sky and cooled temps. I do not know how legit that is but it is another theory. There seems a lot written about the "little ice age" so one should be able to find out which theory of cause is more well regarded. Just thought to chew on.

duncan124:

There are plenty of websites opining about a new Mini Ice Age due to a quiet Sun.

Maybe because of the many paintings and images associated with that idea. Perhaps these image bring an emotional response which is attracting the science and a search finds plenty of different sorts.

More scientific views are also aplenty. I quickly found ;-

http://thecaudallure.blogspot.co.uk/2011/06/mini-ice-ages-and-acid-oceans.html

But a search for the "Suns radiance" was not successful even if it is a more scientific term!

duncan124:

Plenty of scientists concerned about a drop in temperatures in Adapts video.

Corwin: Plenty of scientists??
He mentions a small handful (and even uses the word "handful" ) of "scientists" who suggest a cooling trend... and this is all just part of the "global warming naysayer" faction in denial about Man's impact on the environment.
The other 98% of scientists worldwide all agree that global warming is a real thing, and have overwhelming data to back that up.

As long as we're pumping a trillion tons of CO2 into the atmosphere on a daily basis, I don't really think a reduction in sunspot activity is our biggest concern right now.
And I'd be skeptical of anything said by some conspiracy nut claiming that 98% of the world's leading scientists are all being paid off to lie for the benefit of large corporations.
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Consider this - these people keep showing the data regarding reduced magnetic activity of the Sun, and make this leap correlating it to reduced overall energy output, but they do not ONCE offer a scientific explanation of why this should be so or what the mechanism of causation should be.
Why don't they show us graphs and charts that show the Sun's intensity and overall energy output? And compare it to the data regarding magnetic activity? Odd that they wouldn't include data like that... then they could at least establish some kind of correlation.
Do you know why they don't? Because this data doesn't exist... the Sun isn't cooling down.

In fact, the actual data demonstrates just the opposite. When the Sun is covered with more dark spots the Sun's overall intensity is actually a tiny bit lower, and during times of less sunspot activity a tiny bit higher... but by such a small margin that it hardly makes any kind of difference to something like the Earth's climate.

duncan124:
A very quick answer is;-

Scientist have decided that the period of very low solar activity which coincided with the " mini ice age " is a base line event and has the name Maunder Minimum.

And so reason that a return to the base line will result in a return to the weather associated with that time.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24512-solar-activity-heads-for-lowest-low-in-four-centuries.html#.VWjekKjZWRk

But as we don't know we can only guess.

duncan124:

A second very quick answer is;-

UV light is a major source of heat from the sun.

Variations in the suns magnetic activity are coincidental with variations in the suns other radiations including UV light.

Paste that in to Google search and you will find many scientific pages .

duncan124:

"solarwatcher predicts that planetary alignment related to the sun may cause an earthquake or volcanic eruption on May 14/15th."



Agencies have issued a number of other volcano and earthquake alerts.

Corwin: Planetary alignment "related to the Sun"?? What does that even mean?

duncan124:

It means what it says.

If you viewed the sun and the planets from above they would be in a line.

If it is true that Hakone is becoming active after so long then it could be evidence that the 'old' weather may return also.

duncan124:
"The Hakone volcano calderas were formed as a result of 2 major explosive eruptions about 180,000 and 49,000-60,000 years ago. 
Dome growth after the caldera formation occurred progressively to the south. Ōwakudani (大涌谷, lit. "Great Boiling Valley" is a valley with intense hydrothermal activity and the location of several phreatic explosions in the past. 
The latest magmatic eruption from Hakone was ca. 2900 years ago and produced a pyroclastic flow and a lava dome in the explosion crater. Phreatic eruptions have last occurred in the 12-13th centuries AD. Seismic swarms occurred at Hakone during the 20th century. 
(Source: Smithsonian / GVP volcano information)  "Volcaodiscovery

Ground rises 12cm at thermal springs! ...and more eruption photos;-

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/05/29/national/volcano-erupts-isle-kagoshima-prompting-evacuation-order/#.VWrYk6jZWRl

duncan124:

The Sun running down??

"The last solar minimum at the end of solar cycle 23 has been characterized
by several aspects, very peculiar and different in comparison with the previous
minimum. Polar coronal holes appear smaller, and polar magnetic flux measured
at the solar surface is 40% weaker relative to 1996 minimum (Kirk et al., 2009),
magnetic fields measured in the solar wind above the Sun’s poles are depleted by
a similar amount (about a third; Smith and Balogh, 2008), solar wind density is
decreased (by 17-20%), and the bulk solar wind speed is slightly slower (≈ 3%;
McComas et al., 2008). This period has been exceptionally quiet, with sunspot
numbers at their lowest in a century and the presence of low-latitude large
coronal holes implies strong, long and recurring high speed streams in the solar
wind at the Earth’s orbit (Gibson et al., 2009). Moreover, the coronal magnetic
topology is rather unexpected..."

"Coronal Pseudo-Streamer and Bipolar Streamer
Observed by SOHO/UVCS in March 2008" L. Abbo1,· R. Lionello2,· P. Riley2, Y.-M. Wang3,

duncan124:

Mini-Ice-Age bandwagon rolls;-

http://conservativerefocus.com/blogs/blog5.php/2015/05/29/mini-ice-age-coming-climate

https://nextgrandminimum.wordpress.com

duncan124:



An interesting look at the Sun from SO.

The repeating large filament pattern seems to me to indicate that the Sun is healing because it is getting thinner. And so the ice age is not coming because of that.

More recent pictures show a repeat of the two horned motif.

The weather pictures show the heat wave in India and the very cold weather on the other side of the Himalayas. Something which else where is connected to desertification.

Batman809: wow

duncan124:
Solar Flares cause earthquakes and ...



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duncan124:

" NO IMPACT: A coronal mass ejection (CME) expected to sideswipe Earth's magnetic field on June 12th either missed or its impact was too weak to cause a noticable disturbance. Geomagnetic storms are unlikely on Saturday, June 13th "Spaceweather

The US space agencies have repeatedly issued this ' No Impact ' statement.

Some CMEs must be a near miss but many more must hit.

It seems to me that the result of a CME ' impact ' is mist and rain.

More oddly still the resultant magnetic storm warning which was in force stopped, the No Impact claim was made and then Magnetic Storm warning was restarted.

While mist and rain cover Western Europe its 'All quiet on the western front' regarding CMEs??

duncan124:

"Suspicious 19th-century eyes turned upward at an angry God, and at the Sun. Fingers pointed to a spotty Sun as the culprit for the strange and unpredictable weather. In 1816 sunspots were so large that they could be seen without telescopes. One report notes the presence of particularly large sunspots from May 3 to 10, and again on June 11, when a dry fog due to Tambora's effects reddened and dimmed the disk of the Sun. This reddened condition acted as a solar filter and made the large sunspots stand out easily, even to unaided eyes. The sunspots made quite an impact on the average person, who “at the time believed that the large spots appearing on the Sun's disk lessened the number of rays of light and consequently the earth was to that extent cooler than usual,” wrote Sidney Perley in the 1891 book Historic Storms of New England. "

http://www.investorvillage.com/smbd.asp?mb=4288&mn=185672&pt=msg&mid=15023035

Sunspot number resembles cycles 5 and 6...so buy oil and gas?? Or maybe that was coal??

duncan124:

Twenty years in decline already and the next Minimum is expected to begin in 2040.

Things in the future may be very different from what they have been.

But as the Suns decline started at the same time as the ' End of Time ' era was beginning the question has to be asked," Was it the changes in the Sun that caused so many people to attack those around them?"

As the recent hot sun started in the 1880s at the same time as Germany started and ended in 1995 when ethnic Germans from Spain attacked everyone else the idea that those who react negatively to changes in the environment were reacting to changes in the Sun is a reasonable idea.

Clearly the clever money should not be making the same mistakes again...

duncan124:
The Mega Filament that has been edging round the Sun erupted. It was the largest feature on the Sun and SO reports about it.

duncan124:

Another large feature turns towards Earth.

http://spaceweather.com/images2015/19jun15/coronalhole_sdo_blank.jpg?PHPSESSID=du4nb0efla2efscodbplkph6u0

A large circular complex with sunspot AR2371 at it centre has caught the attention of observing websites.

A quick look through the different heat range images shows that there are a number of semicircular objects just before the large circular complex rather like ripples in water.

A similar but smaller complex brought X strength CMEs a couple of months ago.

duncan124:
The dynamic increases.

Over night Sunspot AR2371 issues a M3 class solar flare and a large coronal hole opens at the rim of the circular object.

http://spaceweather.com/images2015/20jun15/coronalhole_sdo_blank.jpg?PHPSESSID=eb9q9hs9s111dri125vtm15cr1