I Counqure Green House Gases

Zereous Excentris
Zereous Excentris: Think about a few Compressers added to Your car You Know the Thing You Sometimes air Your Tire up with..
You take the Compressor and add it to Your exhaust and it Compresses away the green house gas into a Tank..
Or a Huge Compressor Tank that can be Opened and Cleaned out for a Power Plant..
Saving the Green house gasses for later use for some useful application
the Power plant Tank could be Semi Truck large for Transportation to a Facility nearby ware the Tank is Emptied and Cleaned and all of that usefull chemical is Ours to use as We Please in some applications.. Sounds dificult but Think about it this way.. After a while Someone is going to figure out Upgrades to this System..
Yeah sounds hard to do I Know but Three Advantages.. Creates jobs and Saved the Environment and Useful Application Chemicals..
Kinda Usefull even if all We can catch is some of the green house gas
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Let us say that car exhaust gases can be corralled in the manner you suggest. What happens then? The problem with carbon capture is where to dispose of the stuff once caught. Figure that one out and you could be heading for your first million.
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Zereous Excentris
Zereous Excentris: Usefulness of what the substance is.. I Hope You are not Assuming its Useless.. We can use it for an Application of some sort making it into Smaller.. Or whatever
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: One of the products of combustion is carbon dioxide, an absolutely essential substance for life on earth. Without it plants would die, and therefore so would we humans. A good reason, don't you think, for not putting it in tanks.
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Zereous Excentris
Zereous Excentris: Carbon Monoxide also comes out of the same Process and KILLS LIFE ON EARTH! Perhaps it should be SOMEHOW SEPARATED? HMMMMM?
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Unlike carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide is poisonous but nobody is claiming it to be a destructive greenhouse gas. The current debate concerns the warming of the planet, not whether people are dropping down dead.
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Corwin
Corwin: Another violation of the Laws of Thermodynamics here.

A car is propelled by the combustion of hydrocarbon fuel, and the expanding gasses push the pistons. Keep in mind that a large portion of this energy is wasted in the form of excess heat. So, to compress the exhaust gasses back into a compact form would require much more energy than is created by the combustion of the hydrocarbons.

Plants do a very good job of absorbing CO2 and turning them into hydrocarbons, and they do this by absorbing an enormous amount of sunlight energy (known as photosynthesis ), which is where that energy that propels your car came from in the first place... from the Sun.
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Your heart is in the right place Zereon, but the idea is a fail.
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Zereous Excentris
Zereous Excentris: I Honestly dont see a Compressor Designed to do this a fail.. Your Car Generates more then Enough Energy.. Funny Bs about Your Car.. It actualy waists Energy..
To be Truthful I dont Understand why it has to Generate access Energy First of all the Explosion half goes to waist and is most likely not formulated right and then the Over generate.. Ware does all that Energy go? and Besides that the Generator can Suport it for a Long enough Period of Time anyways and then place it into a Temporary place as it Generates more power to Upkeep the battery and then pump it into a Container.. I am talking a basic air Compressor not a Liquid form of CO... and CO is not CO2
CO Corbin Monoxide though Very Similar to CO2 Dioxide is Harmful to Plants and is not easy for the Plant Life to deal with... an Air Compressor is a Device that runs off of Power.. I dont see how it breaks the laws of Thermodynamics the Car Produces Enough Power to do this I am fairly Sure.. I See it as a Success even if it takes out 25% of the Carbon Monoxide.. and then Who Knows what that can be used for.. It Escapes Our Reach up into the Atmosphere..
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Corwin
Corwin: The CO isn't really the problem though... the primary gas in the exhaust created by combustion is CO2, and is the culprit regarding greenhouse gasses. Carbon Monoxide building up in the atmosphere isn't an issue.

An internal combustion engine wastes energy because the process is inefficient. It's the expanding gasses which we utilize for mechanical energy, but in the process of combustion the main release of energy is in the form of heat. We use the engine's cooling system to dissipate this heat and expel it into the air via the radiator.
That's where much of "all that" energy goes; about 80% of it... even more energy is wasted because of friction and mechanical resistance.
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And you need to wrap your head around the Laws of Thermodynamics.

Law #1 - Conservation of Energy - energy cannot be created nor destroyed, only transferred from one form to another.

Law #2 - Entropy - you can't get more energy out of a system than you put into it. In fact the output is always less than the input because of the energy that is lost in the process as a result of friction and mechanical resistance.
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So in the case of your "pump", you need to understand that the engine runs like a pump in reverse - the expanding gasses push the pistons. So if you have a pump on the other end attempting to use pistons to re-compress those gasses again, it will require more energy to do this than was created by the expanding gasses in the first place.

So the engine cannot provide even enough mechanical energy to compress it's own exhaust, never mind have anything left over to turn the wheels with.


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Zereous Excentris
Zereous Excentris: You have 4 Large 6 Large or 8 Large Pumps Vs 4 Little Pumps even? Hmm I Understand ware You are comeing from but We.. Should not forget about it
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: If you want to eliminate the production of greenhouse gases from vehicles then surely the answer is to remove their source, the internal combustion engine. That, I believe, is the thinking behind electric cars. Of course, you then have to generate the electricity somehow.
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Zereous Excentris
Zereous Excentris: 80% of Gasoline Produces Heat and that 80% Energy source could be Afcourse used..
Funiest bs.. It does not have 80% Entropy
Still Creates the Green House gas but 80% More Efficiency..
Leads back to the same problem but that Enamoring 80% Way less Resource waist way less Production of Green House gas and Green House gas is CO CO2 does not float into the atmosphere otherwise how do the plants get ahold of it?
Hmmmmmm Should have moved Our cars around this way in the First Place but We did not have the Tech at the Time I suppose..
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Corwin
Corwin: We don't have that Tech even today.

Ah yes... utilizing all that waste heat created by internal combustion engines...
... well... this has, of course, been thought of before... but how do you do it?

Turning heat energy into mechanical energy is done on a large-scale all the time... every modern power plant does this with a steam turbine. Whether it's a coal-powered, natural gas-powered, geothermal-powered, or nuclear-powered power plant, they all use a steam turbine to do this. We use the heat to turn water into steam, steam drives the steam turbine to produce mechanical energy, which in turn drives an electric generator.
The steam turbine process is also not very efficient - if you turned that electrical energy back into heat you would only retrieve about 10% to 20% of the original heat energy.

The steam turbine was invented in 1884, but we have not since come up with a better way to turn heat into power. We certainly haven't come up with a way to do it on a small-scale, such as converting the waste-heat from a small gasoline engine into useable power, and many of our best engineering minds have wrestled with the idea for many decades now.
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Zereous Excentris
Zereous Excentris: Who Knows something May Mix with it like Hydrogen and Oxygen likes to make water
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Corwin
Corwin: Heat "mixing" with something??

Hydrogen and Oxygen are forms of matter... heat is not.
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Zereous Excentris
Zereous Excentris: CO Mixing with something not Heat.. CO2 is good for plants CO is bad and goes straight up based on its Atomic Size it is lighter then air and does not need heat to stay up in the atmosphere..
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Zereous Excentris
Zereous Excentris: Lol oh Nevermind
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Zereous Excentris
Zereous Excentris: You are talking about something else
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Zereous Excentris
Zereous Excentris: I have no Idea how We could Create a Device small enough to Utalize the Heat Energy off of an Engine I just said that We should make a Powerplant that runs off of Fule that would Utalize the Heat Energy instead of packing it up into cars and Use Electric cars.. I Understand People Love the Power of a Fule Injected Engine but Honestly We never go Beyond 80 MPH Unless its Racing or some bs
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Zereous Excentris
Zereous Excentris: I had a Whole Set up about this with like Powered gard rails and stuff so when You go on a long trip and You feel tired You can like gently nudge a car and latch to a powered guard rail and then pass out as the gard rail guides Your car for a few hours and random bs like this
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Zereous Excentris
Zereous Excentris: It also Charges Your car too
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Corwin
Corwin: The primary advantage of fossil fuel powered vehicles is range in proportion to weight of fuel.
Fossil fuels such as gasoline pack an incredible punch for such a small volume. Batteries weigh a lot in comparison to how much energy they store.
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Carbon Monoxide is heavier than air.
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You can't draw energy from CO or CO2. Plants utilize CO2 through the process of photosynthesis, which requires a tremendous amount of solar energy to do so. These gases are non-reactive and stable, and it requires energy to strip the molecule of it's Carbon bond.

No free lunch there either.
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Zereous Excentris
Zereous Excentris: There's a myth that carbon monoxide is heavier than air. In fact, carbon monoxide is slightly lighter than air and diffuses evenly..
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Zereous Excentris
Zereous Excentris: Carbon dioxide has one carbon atom and two oxygen atoms, and a molecular weight of 44 grams per mole ( a certain number of molecules). The oxygen in the air is actually O2, or molecular oxygen, with a molecular weight of 32. Hence, carbon dioxide has a higher density, or is heavier than oxygen.
You may be Thinking of CO2 carbon dioxide not CO carbon monoxide
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