At the speed of light time does not stop (Page 4)

Blackshoes
Blackshoes: I missed something somewhere .. I never said Black holes don't exist .
I'm questioning the Physics that theorize that the Big Bang exploded.
the Bang may have ',The bang May not have ',according too the opposing theories ?
It's just not known .
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: Sorry, I mis-read that, thought you were doubting their existence.Those opposing theories you mentioned will be tested soon with the new space telescope, that will be able to look back even farther in time.
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Blackshoes
Blackshoes: NP It's very Interesting Study I have enjoy reading about the Big bang Black holes ,and String theory Etc my entire life . I must admit I still don't Understand String theory Very well and May never get it at all
I have always been a fan of Newton's and Einstein's work .
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: From what I understand, the math for String Theory works, and ties the quantum world in with the Einsteinian world, a unified field theory, but it requires 11 dimensions. Just the concept that mass is made up of tiny strings of energy that form sub atomic particles, that form atoms, and ultimately all the elements we know of.. Just boggles my mind,
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Blackshoes
Blackshoes: Exactly I cannot wrap my mind around it . Yet : those I've spoken too about seem to have similar problem with it
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Blackshoes
Blackshoes: Interesting light slows down' light also returns to Light speed when it leaves whatever is slowing it down such as water ..
Therefore: what is causing this action ? Seeing Light doesn't lose any energy in this process
Like a airplane that has a head wind' as soon as it leaves the wind, it returns to it's original speed . The planes engines continue it on it's way . What cause light to return to it's original speed .


It suggest something is acting upon it', to cause it to return to it's original speed ?

I also don't understand why if two planets A and B are traveling away from each other at about half the speed of light for 10 billion years ?

If I look back from planet A toward planet B why am I looking back to Planet B as it was 10 billion years ago ? It took 10 billion years for them to move the ten Billion years apart ?
I'm confused
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: In such a case the Planet B would be red shifted indicating its speed... and assuming its really a star we could see how bright it was by the spectrum and therefore how far away it is. All this would tell you how long the light has been traveling from point B to A.
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Blackshoes
Blackshoes: I understand what Blue and Red shift is ',My Question is How can we be looking back across ten Billion years too planet A ..The ten billion years have already passed wile A and B were moving apart . I'm missing something here . Like ten billon years . Yes the distance is 10 billion years apart . However : the Light was travelling for Ten billon years along with planet A and B According to reason when looking back at Planet A we're looking back at light that's ten billion years old 'or are we ? Neither the Planets or The Light stood still for that time .

When we look at old movie neither the actors or the movie has change no matter how old the movie is . The film has trapped the light on the screen !
According to reason if a star is ten billion light years away the light has taken that long to get here even is we all started from the Big bang 13 billion years ago .
Therefore was the light trapped there also ? This doesn't make any sense too me !
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: Ok, in this imaginary scenario, after 10 billion years, the observer on B would be seeing light that left less than 10 billion years ago, and would see it as extremely red shifted. The observer would be seeing A as it was when the light left. With red shift calculations the astronomer would estimate that the other world was a little more than 6 billion years apart when the light left. Because of that, the math would tell him that now, its more like 10 billion light years in distance.
However, we wouldn't be able to see a planet, perhaps a star, and it's speed would be no where near the kind of speeds you're thinking, so the error calculations would be very small. But, to add to the confusion, we have to take in the expansion of space/time. The actual distance between the atoms as well as the stars is expanding.
Your light speed question is intriguing, Light does have a mass however small, and therefore should be affected by conservation of energy, but light also acts as a wave, which changes speed in different mediums, somehow space/time is having an effect here.
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bitemykayak
bitemykayak: everything has a wave form and an alternative particle form. Light doesnt change speed, time changes
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Blackshoes
Blackshoes: "The actual distance between the atoms as well as the stars is expanding ."
I assume that's true however : how do they measure that .If that's the case we are all expanding
I mean not just my waist line
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: You are correct , that's what they mean about expanding space.
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bitemykayak
bitemykayak: space time is affected by gravity, which has no effect on the speed light
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: So energy / matter are one thing, ,,and Space / Time are one thing.
Somehow they all come together in a super colossal black hole.
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bitemykayak
bitemykayak: They all come together everywhere.
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: True Bite, but the rules/laws are different.
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Blackshoes
Blackshoes: So Noting that gravity within Black hole stops Light , Does time also stop within the singularity ?
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bitemykayak
bitemykayak: Light doesnt necessararily stop in a black hole, just never escapes. Black holes eventually do release their contents.
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: Good question about time stopping in a black hole, we don't know.
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Blackshoes
Blackshoes: That's according to Steven Hawkins that Black holes eventually dissipate ,and I'm almost sure he's got to be correct

However : Nothing has ever been observed leaving a black hole
Odd the gravity is strong enough to swallow everything in it path
Yet : space isn't swallowed, Or what they call dark matter ?
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duncan124
duncan124:
" I missed something somewhere .. I never said Black holes don't exist .
I'm questioning the Physics that theorize that the Big Bang exploded.
the Bang may have ',The bang May not have '..."

The Big Bang is another Black Hole.

I don't believe in Black Holes. There is no evidence or proof they exist and seem to have just arrived in serious articles without much crowd funding to explain why they got there.



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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: They have been theorized for years, but only recently have they been proved by some new infrared satellites. we now know for sure that there are gigantic black holes in the center of every galaxy.
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duncan124
duncan124:
Not according to the maths, or the High Court in London where they are Slander or Defamation when they are included in serious scientific publications.
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Blackshoes
Blackshoes: I agree: How is it Possible that a *Black hole That can stop light from escaping ! Is suppose have Exploded ?
I boggles the mind

https://kasimstoe.quora.com/

* The Big Bang which is consider the beginning of the Universe ,and maybe Space itself ? Would had been the mother of all Black holes
Note also that the theory states ' during this explosion far more matter was destroyed by antimatter than is present today

Also: No science to date claims any present day black holes can explode ?

Maybe it's me ? Yet :why isn't anyone questioning all this .
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