Creationism is a mental illness (Page 46)

ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Belief always wins in the end because it gives people hope. The truth is too merciless to be acceptable.
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: There is some truth in that.
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Angry Beaver
Angry Beaver: Thats why boofie doesnt understand that scientists will use "may, could have" etc and not state categorically until it has been researched and proven/disproven
He has to have hope that he hasnt been making an absolute fool of himself..
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Angry Beaver
Angry Beaver: LOL now his bf is backin him,
Boofy:
Would have ! should have ! could have ! just cos they research it to a conclusion doesn't mean it's SCIENCE!

Zeffo:

There's NOTHING more than their ASSUMPTION to back up such a belief that such genetic matches mean everything else "must have evolved from LUCA". That's not science--that's absolutely irrational to accept as true without a shred of proof to show that it is true.
How DARE they research stuff and find a conclusion they'd hypothesised!!
As boofo sez, "you can't make this sh*t up!!"


The boiz celebrating another creationism win!

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Angry Beaver
Angry Beaver: Even the church have a more open mind than some of their members:


Fact Tank - Our Lives in Numbers
October 30, 2014
5 facts about evolution and religion

By David Masci

Are faith and belief in evolution necessarily at odds? According to Pope Francis, the answer is no. Indeed, the pope recently reaffirmed the Roman Catholic Church’s view that “evolution in nature is not inconsistent” with church teaching on creation, pushing the debate on human origins back into the news.

Although most U.S. Catholics accept the idea of evolution in some form, a substantial percentage of American adults reject the scientific explanation for the origins of human life, and a number of religious groups in the U.S. maintain that Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution through natural selection is not correct because it conflicts with their views of creation.

Here are five facts about evolution and faith:

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The Roman Catholic Church has long accepted – or at least not objected to – evolutionary theory. Pope Francis is not the first pontiff to publicly affirm that evolution is compatible with church teachings. In 1950, in the encyclical “Humani Generis,” Pope Pius XII said that Catholic teachings on creation could coexist with evolutionary theory. Pope John Paul II went a bit further in 1996, calling evolution “more than a hypothesis.”

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A minority of Americans fully accept the scientific explanation for the origins of human life. According to a 2013 Pew Research Center survey, 60% of Americans say humans have evolved over time, but only about half of that group (32% of U.S. adults overall) believes that humans and other living things evolved solely due to natural processes, the explanation accepted by the vast majority of scientists. About a quarter of U.S. adults (24%) say that humans and other life evolved, but that this evolution was guided by a supreme being. The same survey found that a third of Americans (33%) reject evolution entirely, saying humans and other living things have existed in their present form since the beginning of time.

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Of all the major religious groups in the U.S., white evangelical Protestants are the most likely to reject evolution. Nearly two-thirds (64%) of white evangelicals say that humans and other living things have always existed in their present form, while roughly one-in-ten white evangelicals (8%) say that humans evolved through natural processes. On the other end of the spectrum are the unaffiliated, a majority of whom (57%) said they believe that life evolved through natural processes.

The rejection of evolution by most evangelicals is largely mirrored by their churches, such as the Southern Baptist Convention and the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod, which explicitly reject evolutionary theory as being in conflict with what they see as biblical truth.

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About a quarter of white American Catholics (26%) say that they do not believe in evolution of any kind, despite the church’s acceptance of it. The share of Hispanic Catholics in the U.S. who reject evolution and say that humans have always existed in their present form is even higher (31%).

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A series of court decisions prohibit the teaching of creationism or intelligent design in public schools. In spite of efforts in many American states and localities to ban the teaching of evolution in public schools or to teach alternatives to evolution, courts in recent decades have consistently rejected public school curricula that veer away from evolutionary theory. In Edwards v. Aguillard (1987), for instance, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that a Louisiana law requiring public school students to learn both evolution and creation science violated the U.S. Constitution’s prohibition on the establishment of religion.
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: I think they should teach religion in schools, since the main 4 religions have had such a profound effect on civilization. Teaching all 4, what they say, and how they each have guided the civilization that hosted them. In doing so kids would see the fallacies and the truths behind each.
Along with a few sciences to show them how things really work.
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Angry Beaver
Angry Beaver: Damned fine idea!
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Geoff
Geoff: What they teach in the UK is, "Comparative Religion," (or at least they did when I was at school over 20 years ago). The purpose wasn't to break down religious faith (although the fundamentalists saw it that way), but to foster greater understanding of each other in this multicultural country.

What they should teach about evolution is that it happens. The proof that live on earth goes through changes, that species diverge, that minor adaptations become more and more pronounced over the generations is so well evidenced that it is as much a fact that a rock falls when you drop it.

The Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection (or more accurately, the neo-Darwinian synthesis) merely explains the driving factor behind it (and when coupled with genetics, explains the mechanism behind it).
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: Sounds like the UK is way ahead of the USA when it comes to education.
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Angry Beaver
Angry Beaver: For sure
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Angry Beaver
Angry Beaver: No idea what they teach in Australian primary schools nowadays apart from lgtbq issues, protesting climate change, coal is bad and very little 3 r's
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Angry Beaver
Angry Beaver: I thanked Blackie for us all...yw

Angry Beaver: On behalf of all wire users and misinformed people, I would like to thank Mr Shoes for shining a light on our ignorant and stupid misapprehensions, which have been fed to us by thousands upon thousands of dedicated lying scientists and researchers. Thank you for showing us "THE TRUTH" which only you seem to see in all their lies!, I look forward to seeing your nomination for the Nobel prize in the near future and shall applaud your almost fanatical efforts to inform a guilless public.
We are eternally grateful, kind sir!
Kudos

You DA MAN!

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Angry Beaver
Angry Beaver: He thanked me:

Blackshoes: Anytime You're more than welcome Glad you finally smarted up and realize how Unscientific Evolution is .. Good for you

"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."

Martin Luther King, Jr.
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: ummm guys, I think that went over his head.
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Angry Beaver
Angry Beaver: I think blackie n zeff are an item now!
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Aura
Aura: Let's hope that's not one of the seven seals
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Angry Beaver
Angry Beaver: couldn't find a seal
2nd lol

Think it's time for blackie to join us and sprout some quotations and gibberish with his little sycophantic friend stuck between his butt cheeks
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Blackshoes
Blackshoes: "When one person makes an accusation, check to be sure he himself is not the guilty one. Sometimes it is those whose case is weak who make the most clamour. "

Piers Anthony


“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

― George Carlin

ev·o·lu·tion
[ˌevəˈlo͞oSH(ə)n]

NOUN
the process by which different kinds of living organisms are " thought " to have developed and diversified from earlier forms during the history of the earth.
synonyms:
Darwinism · natural selection
the gradual development of something, especially from a simple to a more complex form.
"the forms of written languages undergo constant evolution"
synonyms:
development · advancement · growth · rise · progress · progression · [more]
chemistry
the giving off of a gaseous product, or of heat.
a pattern of movements or maneuvers.
"silk ribbons waving in fanciful evolutions"
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Geoff
Geoff: Speaking of mental illnesses.
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Blackshoes
Blackshoes: Prove it Thoughts ,assumptions, opinions, and accusations are not evidence or real science without any reseach and evidence that can verify them !
Note ;you and your friends never show any reseach or real science evidence to verify your worship of academia's religion and preaching's !

"Education is what remains after one has forgotten what one has learned in school. "

Albert Einstein

You really need to look into a mirror ' before you accuse others of mental illness !


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kittybobo34
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Can the statements in the video be refuted?
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Geoff
Geoff: Any statement made without evidence can be refuted without evidence.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: But can the claims made actually be refuted by evidence? Are there no links in the fossil record between the various groups of dinosaurs?
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ghostgeek:
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