did you see the photo's of the new found universe still in it's infancy

harlettsines: I did.... woohoo .. it's infant sun is X amount larger then ours. it has 3 earth like still in their infancy planets the size of Saturn or larger each veiled by atmosphere..

how exciting for your great grandchildren and their children .. hmmm perhaps they'll explore the universes as part of the united states of America space force.. or the world at large space force...

of course we could always be annihilated by aliens for venturing to far from home before they get the chance ... for being the troublesome histrionic species we are..

kittybobo34: True, there is no reason to think another species would be very kind or compassionate. Those emotions are a left over from our own heritage as a social species.

harlettsines: we murder one another .. we let others of our kind starve to death live in filthy conditions, we rarely say anything when we are aware of our kind at their most vulnerable being battered abused and then some.. and that's the social norm here in our so called civil nations...

it's even worse for those we know are in even more dire straits..in their home nations..

i'm sure we don't want to go into all the different reasons for those dire straits others of OUR kind cause others of OUR kind to live with to die from... what a crime we nearly do nothing to solve..


there's a sound reason for why in movies alien spices want to do us in .. we deserve it..

kittybobo34: Harl,, so true, meeting another species thats like us would be more dangerous

harlettsines: who said anything about meeting another species like us ???? not me...

I started out asking if anyone else saw the photographs of the unknown infant universe.. story is something cleared enough for it to be revealed.. and then photographed... !!!!

have you ever seen a movie where we are visited by aliens that are in awe of our kind... I haven't.. they reveal themselves because we ventured out from our world... too far .. near theirs or they need our world to continue themselves..

kittybobo34: what ever aliens we meet, will be products of their evolutionary environment just as we are. If herbivores they might be herd beings following blindly the edicts from the dominant leader. If carnivores, they might be more like the preditores from the sci fi movies. Or possibly more dangerous would be hive minded insect types.

harlettsines: herbivores blindly following their dominate leader over being a vegetarian

what me is y everyone try's to mirror else where how existence began here..i would think that there is superior to us and right beneath us ...

anyway

rumor has it way on back in our day when we were still in our young great apes days there was two great ape species becoming humanity..the violent carnivores became cannibals and ate the other species of humanity until it no longer existed.. or darn near ...I believe that's the remnant the bible speaks of.... and that there has to be dna evidence in humanities blood line..

would a supernatural existence created before this universe... need lungs to breath ??? or eyes to see...I doubt that they had actually physical boundaries such as our mortal organic bodies have.. so they wouldn't need a mouth to have a voice or to eat organic food with .. no need of a digestive tract .. etc etc etc..

anyway .. I am chuckling over visually imaging a alien race superior in intelligence and all else above us... evolving from some form of bug ... just desserts if you ask this modern great ape..

kittybobo34: Harl, hey bugs were here long before any of the following species like reptiles, and mammals. Had the planet had a lighter gravity and more oxygen, this world could have evolved intelligent insects.

harlettsines: why I think thought & are of the mind that insects in general are our mortal organic worlds garbage disposal is well on me... & with what you just said... added to darn near every sci-fi alien invasion movie ever made makes sense that the universes would create a far superior insect then us to dispose of us.. and of course .. our own world has ways via insects to wipe us out..which leaves me saying just desserts to us..

kittybobo34: Since evolution only evolves what is necessary to survive, I would say that nearly all intelligent species out there would be the underdog on their own world. Thus evolving intelligence to survive the odds, just as we did. Nothing more pitiful than a naked human in the wild, took brains to survive.

harlettsines: just got back from the dentist ..and have firing up starships on my mind....that a Canadian astronomer is watching while picking up on low frequency radio waves.. that I BET has a Feminine tone to it..

I wish you explain what is so necessary that evolution evolve a fire ant..

kittybobo34: Evolution is a chancy thing, random mutations guided by environmental factors.

harlettsines: the tread is about did you see the photographs taken of the once unknown it existed infant universe....

earth evolution been tampered with and will always be tampered with..

nothing in existence or nature is random..

humanity began as a hermaphrodite.. cro-magnum was a hermaphrodite as was Neanderthal ..we didn't become two genders until the earth was stable enough and mature enough to handle us..


must not have seen those photographs...

once again... nothing in either nature or existence is random...

believing that humanity was is a random fluke of existences & nature is a cop-out answer for y we exist...have the nature we have...& intelligence capacity...

kittybobo34: Dont know where you get this hermaphrodite thing unless you are talking about the stages a fetus goes through. Sex (two genders) was invented over 500 million years ago.

harlettsines: our ancestors had both a penis and womb...

kittybobo34: Not sure where you are getting this, but our ancestors were pretty much the same as we are now, just different species, but still male and female

harlettsines: excuse you ... you are aware that there were several species of great apes who stood up on two legs had limited capacity to become us went sterile & infertile.. that they existed alongside of the great ape species who became us... your wrong about our ancestors being as we are now...we are the at the height of our species evolution.

who are you trying to misinform... not me... your educators have lied.. have white washed human history made up religions.. be for real..

humanity was a fully functioning hermaphrodite in all of it's forms until modern human emerged to carry on our species..

harlettsines: listen to you your not sure where I am getting my 411..

how about from archeologists who aren't afraid of NOT LYING,from seeing the bones they are unearthing still in time & date.. showing that both cro-magnum & Neanderthal had wombs they gave birth and penile bones..

hell my once upon a time favored tv bible teacher is refusing to be truthful about what they are unearthed are unearthing in Israel as we speak for two known reasoning's..and ahh if he doesn't teach x y & z in what ever manner he gets around to how.. he is taken off the air.. you do as you your told or your voice is silenced..

by the way rumor is trump has refused to sign the secrecy agreement .....


humanity has always existed on this planet in one form or another and will always be comforted with it will exist...from it gives birth to own next step in evolution..which we are at the height of..

kittybobo34: How could we possibly know if any of the other great ape species where infertile or sterile, All we have are the bones, and teeth. The cause of their extinction is unknown. Same with Neandertal, it is suspected that human disease and competition did them in.
Another thing, neither our species nor the ones we came from, have penile bones.
As far as being at the height of evolution? Not sure how you are measuring that, we have allot of physical problems. The height of speed in running is evolving to run on your toe nails (like the horse) human feet are at the beginning of that evolution. I think the only place we are ahead of other species is in the brain, but if your measuring brain efficiency, it would have to go to birds like cockatoos, that tiny brain can hold a 300 word vocabulary.

harlettsines: I am not going to get into this with you any further..and you sound as if your convinced your a know it all .. your educators LIED .. earlier archeologists destroyed evidence .. history has been white washed... and there is a telling a knowing ..

ARE YOU FOR REAL... NEANDERTHAL & CRO-MAGUM WENT THROUGH THEIR CHANGES FROM IMPENDING CLIMATE CHANGES WHICH CAUSED INFERTILITY AND STERILITY ..

were still looking for remains of earlier humanity...do you not get humanity in all of it's forms ate it's dead.....and is why we have this harsh time finding remains...we ate our dead...

all life came out of the earth seeping foaming soup..

I will not further the lies told to all of us nor waste my time with someone who can't help but further them...

Europeans in their effort to own the worlds knowledge and skill... burned the first physician's helpers first responders at the stake.. burned the first pharmacists veterinarians as witches and warlocks.... then took all that knowledge at the same time they created religion as we all know it then once the first printing was created and printing then gave that knowledge they stolen to the RICH.....in the form of a university education.


you preach religion as they say you will till this very moment or you are silenced... and cleaning up our real history is nearly impossible...it's been so white washed..filled with LIES..

if you don't want the practical answer then you respond to it with it's impossible to actually know...then start pointing in every which direction..

kittybobo34: Anthropology is a hobby of mine, but I have never seen any of the things you are claiming. But , sounds like you are happy with what you think you know.

harlettsines: you aren't looking for them.....

folks keep asking the question of if there are other life forms....other then those here on earth.. and for what ever reason.. man made up religion I suspect is the cause... can't wrap it's mind around that the supernatural is a realm where a life form exists.. with presence of being...

I didn't just make up what I get darn near hysterical about .. I watched deeply involved films on the very subjects....

who educates the world can be manipulated to the telling of facts truth and living realities. when you ask for truths living realities direct that desire at the right sources that source can have it produced and told..i am not alone wasn't alone in wanting that that knowledge.. just to have it... all I speak about can be found in books and on deeply involved films...

kittybobo34: You know, just because there is a film or a book, doesnt make it true. There are tons of organizations that pay people to lie, especially the religious groups, that's their bread and butter income. Science is built on a pyramid of facts and proven points, if you know those you can tell when you are being lied too. But back to the room thread as you called it.
I have seen the pic you mentioned, pretty fuzzy,, its so far away. Allot of giant stars and supernova. One reason they say the universe is 13.8 billion years old , is because that is as far as they can see. Better telescopes might show us even more.

harlettsines: really just because ... are you for real ..... there are professors current archeologists unwilling to lie.. and be deceitful.. are updating all that is known can be known ...

perhaps you ought to look into where you got your 411 for it falls naturally short...

you have to be willing to be deceived in order for you to be deceived...


and ahhhh you will excuse me for my agitation won't you .. I am being hounded by the devil in disguise proving he is battering the intelligent... the ego maniac's.. the runs our world in the moment.. just as the prophecies said we'd see hear for ourselves...and it riles me horribly..


have I ever told you the story.. how "he" disguised as just shout out at a teacher for teaching blatant lies.. sure did one to many times to boot..got me in all kinds of binds...

harlettsines: ......lets say that the super computer strongly suggests... that at one time, here on earth,there was 3 two lane super highways of sorts..divided by a starry sky...

each of those 3 highways had two lanes.. all lanes going in the same direction..lol theres a bit of math..lol...

all 6 lanes had 1 species of great ape with the capacity to become US all 6 stood on two legs..
when I tell you I was held fast fascinated by the unfolding about Earth & US I mean I was still am fascinated..

the super computer slowly zoomed through millions of years,showing how 1 species gave birth to next rendition to the next..

I forget if the super computer said what might of caused the evolution into US to stop for the other 5 species ...but clearly and obviously it did...

I do recall feeling saddened by the notion that five other species of us failed at existing .. alongside of US..as we continued to evolve..

& ahhhh if you ask me... it is mesmerizing to see how the super computer travels through millions of years...


and ahh I didn't see pixilated in it's infancy universe photo's ...I saw wonderfully glossy hazy photos butt you know could be just my 6? years old eyes...looking through my own rose colored cataracts.....

kittybobo34: Not sue where you were going with the 6 lane hiways species of homosapiens. If you go back to about 150,000 years you would find 3 versions of hominids,
Neanderthal (adapted to mountains, ice age, meat eating) they traveled in family units not tribes, had larger brains than we do but those brains were organized more like animals, preprogramed or instinct guiding them.
HomoErectus (inland variety more like us but without the mental capacity we have) They were the ones that settled Australia.
CroMagnon, coastal variety, loved to live near water, formed large tribes. Developed the mental capacity for quick adaptation and creative thinking. spread throughout the world along the coast lines.