Why is the climate changing. (Page 167) kittybobo34: From what I am seeing, of those in the hospital, 27% are young people now. It seems the Delta variant is getting better at killing kids.  zeffur: re: "Sir Loin: Currently NZ has 70+% vaccination rate, aiming for 90% so lockdowns can stop. 1500 cases and about 20 deaths so far. But yeah, you go ahead and believe the conspiracy theorists if you want Zeff. There will always be a danger of newly evolved strains finding their way here as long as antivaxxers like yourself remain." What conspiracy?? I published data from the CDC ffs! The only way to defeat such a virus is via the immune systems of human beings. When the immune systems of enough people have overcome the virus, then & only then will the virus be ineffective against humans. That isn't a conspiracy--it's a FACT!. Anti-vaxers aren't against the vaccine---if you want it--accept it. They just want their own immune systems to deal with it rather than accepting a vaccine that they do not need/want. Vaccinating everyone will NOT stop the vaccine as the vaccines are NOT 100% effective. Trying to blame the unvaccinated for the problem is idiotic. If your vaccine is so great then what are you sweating about?? The truth is that a healthy person who allows their own body to devise a solution to the virus strains develops a more robust solution to the virus & it lasts longer than your endless band-aid vaccines that will keep pouring $$$ into big pharma for decades. Many vaccinated people are being infected by the delta variant--that is another FACT. If the vaccines were all that they were purported to be then you wouldn't need boosters & future vaccines-- which we both know by now that YOU think you will need... So, yeah. Stop the madness! Leave healthy people alone to let their own immune systems provide a REAL solution to the virus, rather than your man-made shite solution that isn't very effective & potentially deadly... (Edited by zeffur) zeffur: re: "Sir Loin: Fairy you're so full of it. Just repeating the conspiracy theorists bs. Only 3% of hospital cases are fully vaccinated, none in ICU" And how many of those vaccinated people who are asymptomatic have a viral load high enough to spread the virus to others?? Plenty most likely! And those that get infected with the delta strain are having to rely on their own immune systems to create a solution to the virus--mean while they are vaccinated & unmasked with the false notion that they are immune as they spread the virus to whoever they come into contact with... You vaxxed nutjubs don't know anything--you are operating on fear & ignorance--not sound reasoning! (Edited by zeffur)  Fractured fairy tale: Julian assange was a "Consparicy Therorist" too Paddle pop lion your so Scared of him Your got too Lock him up for 150 years  Fractured fairy tale: Mabye he Knew something the Paddle pop lion coudn"t handle Oh Poor Paddle pop lion watch out your Bubble don"t pop  ghostgeek: OK, not really the place to post it but as people here seem stuck on Covid, why not: An award-winning Australian journalist has called for the resignation of America’s top infectious diseases expert after her explosive new book uncovered links between the US government and the Wuhan lab that she believes is where the Covid-19 pandemic began. Sharri Markson told i that evidence from painstaking research and interviews with insiders in China and Washington have added weight to the “lab leak” origin theory. It purports that a leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) in China in late 2019 triggered the pandemic, causing the deaths of more than 4.7 million people worldwide. The hypothesis is being investigated by scientists exploring the pandemic’s origins, after it was initially dismissed early on as a conspiracy. Markson’s book, What Really Happened in Wuhan, claims Anthony Fauci, the White House’s chief medical adviser, partly funded research at the Wuhan lab, including controversial “gain of function” studies – which involve genetically modifying viruses for research. She also found evidence that the Trump administration may have been warned about the virus six weeks before China finally admitted the outbreak, but that those warnings were not acted upon. [ https://inews.co.uk/news/world/what-really-happened-wuhan-author-fauci-lab-leak-covid-origin-theory-1213724?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB ] ghostgeek: Markson spoke to several whistleblowers in China, including ex-Chinese Communist Party insider Wei Jingsheng. He spent 18 years in Chinese prisons for his dissident views and “counter-revolutionary activities”, and was exiled to the US in 1997. Mr Wei said he warned senior figures in the US government about the mysterious new virus in November 2019, six weeks before China confirmed its existence to the World Health Organisation (WHO). Markson said Mr Wei was “in regular contact with the US intelligence community and the political community” and that he says he found out about it during the Military World Games held in Wuhan in October 2019. [ https://inews.co.uk/news/world/what-really-happened-wuhan-author-fauci-lab-leak-covid-origin-theory-1213724?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB ] ghostgeek: Markson said she found 60 scientific projects at the Wuhan lab that were funded by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) over the past decade, and that some of these were for “gain of function” research. Gain of function experiments involve genetically modifying viruses to make them more transmissible, more virulent, or both, to help researchers test scientific theories, develop new technologies and find treatments. Gain of function research has been a bone of contention due to the risks involved and questions over how safely experiments can be performed. Markson said there is evidence Dr Fauci, as director of the NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, partly funded some of that research, which he has denied. “To me, it’s incomprehensible that he still has the position that he has, when his role in funding the lab that might have spiked the pandemic is clear,” Markson said. “There were 60 papers that had been funded by the NIH. So we can’t walk away from that, it’s just a fact,” she said. “Even the research that wasn’t gain of function, it was genetically manipulating coronaviruses and that’s still incredibly risky and dangerous as well.” [ https://inews.co.uk/news/world/what-really-happened-wuhan-author-fauci-lab-leak-covid-origin-theory-1213724?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB ] ghostgeek: Scientists and senior intelligence figures came across censorship in the early stages of the pandemic when trying to reveal possible links of Covid to the Wuhan lab. Professor Nikolai Petrovsky, director of endocrinology at Flinders University in Australia, used a supercomputer originally made for cancer research to design a Covid vaccine and explore the transmission path of the virus from animals to humans. Markson said he made a surprising discovery that the virus was perfectly adapted to humans, suggesting it may have been man-made. She described interviewing Professor Petrovsky in May last year as “a memorable moment” because he was a scientist “who had a different view, he thinks this virus might’ve been genetically manipulated… and we hadn’t heard that because no scientist was speaking out at that time – now they are but they weren’t then.” [ https://inews.co.uk/news/world/what-really-happened-wuhan-author-fauci-lab-leak-covid-origin-theory-1213724?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB ] Fractured fairy tale: looks like the End Times are fast Approaching , With all this wonderfull Breaking news world wide Repent now or forever hold your Torment  ghostgeek: Nothing new in that. The End Times have been approaching for the last two thousand years and probably for thousands of years before then. ghostgeek: Anyway, it's all almost over, so look on the bright side: Christiana Figueres, former executive secretary of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change and pivotal figure in the Paris Agreement, declared in 2020, “It is only over the next 10 years from here to 2030 that we can influence what is going to happen. The scary thing is that after 2030 it basically doesn’t really matter what humans do. We will be in danger of those tipping points having a domino effect on each other and we will lose total control.” [ https://www.globalpolicyjournal.com/blog/22/07/2021/what-harm-forecasting-catastrophe-due-man-made-global-warming ] China isn't going to close all its coal-fired power stations in the next ten years so domino effect here we come. ghostgeek: Professor Frank Fenner, microbiologist, ANU, 2010: “We’re going to become extinct. Whatever we do now is too late” [ https://www.globalpolicyjournal.com/blog/22/07/2021/what-harm-forecasting-catastrophe-due-man-made-global-warming ] So stop worrying and burn some more coal. Fractured fairy tale: well One things Forshore This Is The First Time in History Science And Religion Has agreed If Mankind Don't get its Act together were all Dommed , Doomed they tells ya ghostgeek: As the sage said, lower Manhattan will be underwater by 2018 James Hansen, testimony at Congressional hearing, 1988: “world's leading climate expert [Hansen] predicts lower Manhattan underwater by 2018” [ https://www.globalpolicyjournal.com/blog/22/07/2021/what-harm-forecasting-catastrophe-due-man-made-global-warming ] Fractured fairy tale: LOL Things Might be a lot better If These Politicans Didn"t Rely on there Reports on What the Super computer Says is going too Happen No Matter what It is from Covid too Global Warming The Predictions from there Cystral Computer Are Wildly Innaccurate ghostgeek: The build-up of warming gases in the atmosphere rose to record levels in 2020 despite the pandemic, according to the World Meteorological Organization. The amounts of CO2, methane and nitrous oxide rose by more than the annual average in the past 10 years. The WMO says this will drive up temperatures in excess of the goals of the Paris agreement. They worry that our warmer world is, in turn, boosting emissions from natural sources. [ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-59016075 ] ghostgeek: One of the big concerns for researchers is that the ongoing rise in temperatures may actually cause a rise in warming gases from natural sources. Scientists are concerned that this is already happening with methane. Although it has a shorter lifespan than CO2, methane is far more potent as a warming chemical. Around 60% of the CH4 that ends up in the atmosphere comes from human sources such as agriculture, fossil fuels, landfills and biomass burning. The other 40% comes from the activities of microbes in natural sources such as wetlands. Last year's rise was the biggest increase since global methane levels started rising again in 2007. The majority of it was from natural sources. "If you increase the amount of precipitation in the areas of the wetlands, and if you increase the temperature, then these methane producing bacteria, produce more methane," said Dr Oksana Tarasova from the WMO. "So this will only increase in the future because the temperature is going to rise. It's a big concern," she told BBC News. [ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-59016075 ] | Science Chat Room 1 Person Chatting Similar Conversations |
