Why is the climate changing. (Page 69)

Sir Loin: will watch again

theHating: I believe his description is "possible high pressure zones moving cold air..." Not sure on the exact wording.

zeffur: What I'd like to know is why doesn't the heating of the air molecules occur as fast at higher altitudes as it does at sea level when the sunlight can concentrate & the energy accumulate to produce higher rates of air warming?

My guess is because the land & water act as a heat sink & cause the nearby air molecules to be heated to a higher temp due to the accumulation of heat that occurs in soil & water. It also has to do with the pressure differences as well, I suppose.

theHating: It's on page 62

Sir Loin: Apart from his American accent and mispronunciation yep he's described the process accurately.
Zeff, at high altitude the air is at lower pressure so the molecules are occupying a greater space and not bumping into each other to create warmth. Like when you compress or decrease gas in a fridge. Therefore temps will be lower at altitude

kittybobo34: With Global warming, there should be much more moisture in the air, and much more air pressure all around (thicker atmosphere) leading to much more intense storms.

ghostgeek: I thought it was cold air that was denser?

theHating: I thought we were already qualified in picking and choosing.

ghostgeek: I didn't know we were allowed to pick and choose.

kittybobo34: Ghost,, cold air is denser than warm. But, what I am talking about is adding much more atmosphere because of all the water vapor, miles thicker means density.

Sir Loin: Kitty, as the atmosphere warms it contains more energy to drive weather events such as storms. Water vapour also contributes to warming as it condenses to cloud droplets it releases latent heat of condensation. The warmth causes the air to rise and as the atmosphere becomes deeper, surface air pressure increases due to the taller column of air. The atmosphere does't exactly become denser although it does appear that is happening

chronology: A really interesting experience must be to stand in Bad Water Basin in Death Valley California. The deepest point in the United States. It would be just so impressive to realise you are nearly 300 feet below Sea Level.

Thankfully there is a whole bunch of land between the Basin and the Pacific. So there would be no constant feeling of being at risk like in some places in the Netherlands where much of the country is a few feet below Sea Level. If the Dikes give way you would be flooded out in no time. But in Bad Water you would be hit by a wall of water bigger than a New York skyscraper.

I don't see how a few hundred feet down could be noticed physically tho. Not like being high in the Rockies.

Sir Loin: 300 ft below MSL would only cause the air pressure to be about 10HPa higher than normal so you wouldn't notice it. Your ears might pop a bit if you descended that 300ft very quickly, but not enough to be painful

ghostgeek: I've recently been looking at some pretty pictures, well, graphs actually, of temperature change over the last 8,000 years or so. From what I can see, global temperature has been on a downward course for thousands of years except for the recent past. This has got me wondering. What sort of predicament would we now be facing if the trend had continued on down?

zeffur: Here's a good interview to watch. He's a geologist(among other things) & he talks about what we know about gw from ice core info:
https://londonreal.tv/e/gregg-braden-human-by-design-exploring-science-and-spirituality/

theHating: Yeah, probably a good idea to accept too much atmospheric co2 will have the effect of cooking people alive while acknowledging that global cooling alarmists are no different than the warming guys, in the respect of hyperbolic alarmism being equivalent to fearmongering... Speaking of fearmongering, the democrats..... Those democrats that wanna destroy the failing fossil fuel industry with more reliable clean power... Are probably the ones who concocted and conspire to create fuel shortages...

Nah... Let's keep hosing down the alternatives.

theHating: We're freedom lovers!

Freedom runs on "clean coal"!

ghostgeek: What's the clean power solution in an Ice Age?

theHating: Well, basically, if ya know how the climate works (like those conniving democrats who conspire on deep state things) then presumably, one should be able to answer that question...

ghostgeek: So I take it you don't know?

theHating: It's not the point

zeffur: Mankind isn't the cause of climate change--it's been pretty well established already. We just need to adapt to it the best way that we can.

If another ice age came, it isn't because humans caused it. Neither are we the cause of the current extended warming period. My guess is that we will be approaching another ice age of some kind within the next 500 years.

And yeah.. if we can't grow enough food to feed people, we'll see a massive die off of all kinds of organism--including humans.

kittybobo34: Ghost,, interesting question, I suppose we would have to balance the co2 output to around 2x what it was in the 1940's, Keeping enough co2 in the air to prevent an ice age but not so much to cause a global meltdown.

theHating: Well, since you're willing to make it a point.

No, I don't know first hand, the answer to your questions. Given, a moment to search, I'm sure I could learn something about it, but pray tell, are you remotely qualified to have first hand knowledge related to the field of climate science?

My guess is no.

So, no, i dont know the future solution of a made-up problem, but from what I can speculate on is that your question is poorly thought out.

kittybobo34: YouTube Try this on for an explanation