Climate Change Is Real. Now What Should We Do About It? (Page 2) doverdowns2008: Climate Change has been with us for Billions of years!, do you believe every thing the so called Scientists tell you?, the Oceans have been warming up for the past Billion Years, the temps have been going up at a rate of 0.01 a year!, you can take EVERY car truck bus off the roads and your still going to have Climate Change!, HOW do you think we get the change of seasons??  smilingkiss: so you just allow the air polluted, unbearable to breathe for the children, and heat waves etc... we are not going to change the season Southeast Asia will never have snow, that is the fact, especially the equator .....yes we have the heat on this planet, the core is nothing be intense heat but we human now is creating more heat above. Do you think you are the only one who knows that the planet has been hot and cooled down and adding heat each year......muahahaha doverdowns2008: Opps sorry for got that the Propaganda has gotten to some peoples brains!, China puts out more Pollution than any other three country's put to gather, so WHY is it the USA has to take care of the Pollution?, never see you people cry about that, WHY?, and EV are NOT the way to go, not one state is ready for any EV's, so what buy a EV and wait for the next fifty years when they get the grid up and running?, we can NEVER get rid of OIL or GAS!, how do you think them Turbines run to make Electricity?? smilingkiss: if you got that understanding the population of American is 350,000 million whereas China got 1.4 billion how much CO2 do they produce without the industries they are far much bigger than the USA ..........who is brainwashed or who doesn't understand proportion,,,'' China has the world's largest population (1.426 billion), but India (1.417 billion) is expected to claim this title next year. The next five most populous nations – the United States, Indonesia, Pakistan, Nigeria, and Brazil – together have fewer people than India or China.'' doverdowns2008: lol go back to School and try to learn about Climate Change!, tell me, HOW do we get the change of seasons?? smilingkiss: ''Climate change refers to long-term shifts in temperatures and weather patterns . These shifts may be natural, such as through variations in the solar cycle. But since the 1800s, human activities have been the main driver of climate change, primarily due to burning fossil fuels like coal, oil, and gas.'' doverdowns2008: LOL REALLY?, then HOW did we get the ICE AGE?, no gas or cars then, and how did we get the Extreme Heat, Billions of years ago?, no gas then either!, and IF JOE gets rid of Fossil Fuels, HOW will we get Electricity?, do you NOT know that Millions of things come from COAL? doverdowns2008: way to funny, you need the Schooling!, your just another Misinformed person!, who believes the Propaganda BS!, ask any Scientist, maybe they can explane it too you!, Climate Change has been around for BILLION'S of years! doverdowns2008: well we know your NOT a Sciences Teacher, or you would know, that Earth has had Climate Change for BILLIONS of years! smilingkiss: i told in the earlier post the earth has undergone climate change many times ,,,,,,,,,,,,now stop this blaming me you didn't get to read that  GeraldtheGnome: You teach critical thinking ? You do in regards to environmental science ? I beg to differ. Let’s do a comparison to see if your claim about what you believe is true. Are you religious or are you not religious ? smilingkiss: critical is about religious muahahaha did I say I was, all I am saying is I went to the U so that is all I was saying and critical thinking is about how you are. This is to know how many on wire believe that they believe but you went emotional who is what not even thinking critically so please you want to insult me go ahead nothing has changed and if you are trolling shame on you for you are too old to be doing what you are doing GeraldtheGnome: None of that is true, that alone showed why you are not good at critical thinking about what the subject of your forum is about. It was also grammatically incorrect and hypocritical, the only one who was emotional and and evasive about critical thinking out of the two of us is you. You know what I am doing ? So you also claim to be a mind reader about me. It's always better to be right than for you to think that you are right, but continue on thinking that you are right if you yourself don't want to learn from your own mistakes, just falsely blame me for everything that I am not guilty of. No one said anything on this text based site. Have you ever thought that it is you who is too old to think the way that you think, not me ? I understand now that you don't want to answer the questions from my last message.
smilingkiss: the problem with you guys, you attack a person thinking they do not have an education do you have one? and this is not about the fight for education but to fight for our planets and you still have a mind to fight your fellow human, hmmm no wonder we are not going to make it GeraldtheGnome: I’m sorry. I thought independent thought was allowed, I forgot that I must only agree with everyone that starts up every forum by default. You have made errors, just as everyone has, I’m no exception, it’s what makes us humans. No one is claiming that you and like minded people to you don’t have an education, so no one is attacking you, especially not for the reasons you just told us. No matter what happens to the planet it will be here long after all that really will happen and is happening right now. There’s pollution of all sorts, that’s known, you think that it goes beyond that, that is what my side has not seen from your side, you keep claiming certainty over what you have not proven, that is a religious like way of thinking. It’s not an attack and yes in the past there was an ice age and global warming, global cooling and what not, then and now, even if any of that is happening right now (which you haven’t convinced everyone that what is happening) still isn’t about Humans and still cannot be stopped by even every Human on Earth. Doomsday science is misleading yet it convinces the most fearful. Worry about pollution, that’s what everyone agrees about. Hotter than usual in some areas has got to stop being assumed that it automatically means that the whole world is globally warming. When there is one exception to the rule or more than one to the global warming belief then yes climate change (where it has changed) is real but global warming isn’t. Global warming predictions so far have been proven to be wrong. It got drier or stayed the same when it was supposed to get wetter and the opposite was claimed elsewhere that prediction during the claimed time that it was supposed to have happened never happened.  Troublinn: First; Climate and climate change have absolutely nothing to do with seasons. Seasons and their changes are due to the earth's tilt and distance in relation to the sun as the Earth makes it way around the the sun once every 365 days, 5 hours, 59 minutes and 16 seconds, thus the need for leap year once every four years to correct the difference. Secondly; Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 800,000 years, there have been eight cycles of ice ages and warmer periods, with the end of the last ice age about 11,700 years ago marking the beginning of the modern climate era — and of human civilization. I think people confuse weather with climate change they are exclusively different. The problem is not whether or if the Earth's climate will change, it will change that is a given. The real question is what impact is humanity's actions over the last several 100's of years having on climate change. Do we wait until there is a point of no return to finally acknowledge that humanity is making an impact on the climate or do we make some changes now in order to alleviate some of that change? It's like the problem with plastic do we keep producing all these products made of plastic and ignore the problem until every last ocean and beach has become a plastic wasteland or do we decide that maybe we ought to change our behaviors, maybe a little? SMDH!! GeraldtheGnome: There have been various errors made on this forum. The major problem from the start on here, one is what the meaning of the word climate change actually means, the other is the use of the word global whenever globally what has happened in the past, what is happening now and what will happen in the future is not as their own personal fear and paranoia has brought them to the wrong judgement about. If something is regionally happening anywhere in the world then that is happening in that region or in that of more than one region around the world but that does not mean that is happening globally. Since at present and in the past back to the last point when there was a real global climate problem there is and was up to a point no global warming or for that matter global cooling of any sort. A lot of different forums in the science section, the political section and so on on here have someone who instead of finding out if something is true before making a new forum and or message have it in the mind that something is true when it isn’t then type up that something is true when it is not and then that person and everyone else who makes a false claim thinks that they are right. The worst of them will have that something is a form of science and that it also isn’t a science, that is contradictory and it doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. I’m not accusing the maker of this forum of such a thing. What has been put on this forum is about science, the thing is though that it is inaccurately about science. Another thing, anyone who thinks that globally in the past, present and in the future there were are and will be examples of Humans that have warmed up the world globally and have the capability of cooling the world globally unless some yet unknown future technology comes about is being around and ignorant. The forgone conclusion is that climate change is only one thing and that there either is the possibility or the certainty that what is imagined to be true can be fixed by Humans somehow. When the problem is an imaginary one then it can’t be fixed. If you want to believe otherwise then live here or anywhere else where your global belief isn’t true. Climates have changed in various ways regionally in some parts of the world as far back as the last time there actually was a global climate difference, at present, in the past and in the future up to some point there was, is and will be to a point parts of the world places of no climate change whatsoever. Why should I trust the weather experts when long term weather predictions and short term weather predictions are more often than not inaccurate ? So from that I’m supposed to trust people who have doom and gloom predictions of the not so near future after that when so far even the possibility is not on display ? The word behaviour and the equivalent of that word in some countries does not have the letter s on the end of it. Collective guilt is where everyone is falsely accused of doing something that not everyone has done and then being blamed for doing something that we haven’t done that we, including those who aren’t guilty of it (which is a far left tactic) then have to make amends for. Plastic pollution is not what this forum is even nearly about. Damn drama again, I shake my head, don’t worry, be happy, don’t fall for the modern day equivalent of the sky is falling myth and relax. It’s only those who should change their behaviour are those who should do so. The belief that certain people are in the wrong is a silly one, it’s the claim of being right without knowing that you are in the wrong and then having the cheek to tell everyone who doesn’t agree with your way of thinking to change their behaviour. In reality it’s really you and those that agree with you are the people who should change their behaviour including the minority of everyone else who also are in the wrong. | Science Chat Room 1 Person Chatting Similar Conversations |
