UFC 140 Saturday Night!! Amazing Victory from Frank Mir! That"s a classic "snatching a Victory in the jaws of Defeat"
Azimuth_Predator: Frank Mir is a true warrior! He is just amazing! Awesome technique and will!
Ninja Santa when you say fluke you mean lucky??
EvilNinjathug: yes i mean lucky Frank Mir gets lucky more often than not was lucky to catch foot locks on tank abbott and later brock lesnar also when he broke tim sylvias arm not denying his jui jitsu isnt world class but yeah he gets lucky alot
Azimuth_Predator: Yes Frank Mir is the guy who won the fight. His next fight might be for the Tittle! He was UFC Heavy Weight Champion 2 times. He lost it the first time cause he had a motorcycle accident back in 2004(24 years old). He broke his Knee in half, had a surgery and he was out for a year and a half. So they striped the belt from him. Returned in 2005 and he was champion again in 2008. Lost the belt in 2009 from Brock Lesnar. And now it looks like he is going for a tittle shot again on 2012!
Frank just keeps coming! He never gives up!
If you see his fights you will understand how Amazing this guy is!
As for fluke victories...i think Sandras Ninja Santa has no clue on this subject what so ever, cause he has never competed in his life before i am sure lol
ESCAPE11: Hmm I See!
To Tell U The Truth Frank Mir Seemed Kinda Like "Out Of Topic" Lol
The Other One Seemed Stronger BUT....It Overturned Lol
EvilNinjathug: ok so before tyou get upset and start crying and insulting me for having opinion how about you get your facts right? I have watched every ufc since royce gracie taking it in the first ufc tournament and have done mma for 7 years and competed in 4 ameteur tournaments and 12 individual ameteur bouts i guarentee i know more than you do quoting a couple of facts doesnt make you any wiser buddy and insulting someone for their opinion and about things you have no idea about shows your own stupidity azi you were on my list you tool lol so dont play dumb either
Azimuth_Predator: Sandras Ninja!!! Please don"t comment on here again! Unless....you have something clever or valid to say!
You are a dumbass for saying that. Have you ever had a fight and pull off an "ACCIDENTAL FOOT LOCK"?????
Do you know anything about physics kid??
Its like me saying this " you know what guys? i was in a fight and this guy started punching me then i "accidentally" pulled guard-then i transitioned my self to his legs by wrapping my leg on his shoulder while applying a kimura on his foot twisting it 180 degrees side ways" That was so lucky huh?? LOL
Don"t get pissed off with me Sandras Ninja Santa but i am trying to explain to you some facts.
EvilNinjathug: kid? bahahahaha look at you you moron insulting people coz they dont hang on your every word bahahaha theres a difference between going for a hold or working towards getting it than someone rolling into it for you watch the fights again you tool im not the one getting angry azi your the one getting upset and throwing insults i bet you have never had an mma fight in your life a total couch warrior pfft
Azimuth_Predator: Me?? couch warrior? I have traveled the world kido and i am a blue belt BJJ. I do swimming and 10 klm races. Played Basketball and Rugby. Greco-roman wrestling in my teens? Some kick box sparing.... I think i have the edge over you. I am not a keyboard warrior oi have to disagree there. I am a life warrior and i am supporting an athlete this moment! Who is the troll me or you??
You are one pissed off kid. You need to train man. It will calm you down and it will help your knowledge in MMA fighting. Lucky Foot lock? pffff
EvilNinjathug: bahahahaha i call bs i aint pissed at all i offered an opinion and you randomly start insulting me lol your fail azi
Azimuth_Predator: I did not insult...Read the comment. You got pissed off: And if you have done what you say and i doubt it 100% you would know that the foot lock is not lucky.
As for Gracies i trained at Gracie Barra Athens. Draculino team.
And i shall call you kid when you speak such nonsense..i am sorry.....kido "smiles"
EvilNinjathug: bahahahahahaha keep talking azi its all your good at buddy hey if having the last word makes you feel tougher good for you mate when someone rolls into it on a failed escape attempt yeah that is luck think what you like mate you obviously never been in a match yourself so if talking big on here and trying to belittle me coz your upset makes you feel better more power to ya buddy i do fight when you do feel free to comment till then enjoy screaming at your tv
Azimuth_Predator: I don"t watch TV. I think TV makes you dumb. You must watch a lot of it huh?
And i don"t want to be tough. When you start training and learning then we can chat again.
And as for couch warrior and stuff like that you have me as a friend and you have seen some pics of mine so you know i am not a fake(well conditioned,flexible,fit,knowledgeable). Where are your pics? I have no footage of you what so ever....I think you are a beer belly man that eats donuts like Homer Simpson lol
by the way i am not saying you are a bad person. I hope one day we get to spar of you start training. And i love debates by the way.
~LoisLane~: Do I even want to comment in here now lols.....(afraid be very afraid)...Anywhozz I havent been "In the ring: haha but I do watch the fights and have an opinion on them.
Omg I cant believe the guys arm (antonio) holy crap I thought it was going to snap, torn ligaments much....Antonio should have kept pounding on Mirs head and shouldnt have stopped. He was trying to flip all around to get Mir off the arm , but it didnt work....Damn Antonio held out tho....He is a strong guy I fully agree with that. I really wasnt sure where this fight was going to go but I am glad Mir won......!!
Tito Ortiz vs Lil Nog WOW.....First of all....WTF is with the Bald Tito , just for that he should have gotten knocked out....Oh and speaking of hahaha I havent seen Ortiz take a beating like that in a long time...WTF happened to him. He just blocks and blocks trying to not get hit....What a total idiot he is now. It was quick too even....
Lil Nog was just giving him a flurry of punches in the head.....Then just kept hammering at his side and the ref finally stopped it....Ortiz just rolls over like a horse who has just been shot......Dumbass...
I havent had a chance to see this fight yet (Michida vs Jones) but I heard Jones won...I know he is up and coming and people think he is "the best LHC" I dont think he is the best but I do think he is getting up there. I personally like GSP and Anderson Silva more....
Jones has been pretty good this year and at 24 I think he will be around for a while....Must give him some props for that...
Azimuth_Predator: LoL don"t be afraid. I think that my self and Sandras Ninja Santa wont be able to Agree on this topic ever. The debate is fun though. I guess it depends on the fighters. Ninja Santa is obviously a Mir hater lol. I don"t hate anyone on the sport and think Everyone in the UFC(which is the top league of fighters world wide) is legit from my point a view. In all areas and there can be no flukes with physics such as "Torque".....Anyway
Yes the fight was amazing and i shall explain to you want happened.
When Nogueira landed those shots on Mir and he went down i was like "oh shit!" Frank Mir very intelligently covered his face on the ground and had the back of the head wide open, and as all MMA fans should know :hits on the back of the head are not allowed!
So Nogueira had to work those shots from the side but that was to risky Cardio wise cause Frank Had the single ready with his left hand was on his foot waiting for the opportunity. Nogueira realized that this was the opportunity to choke him cause his neck was right there! A BJJ specialist can see that. And he took it. Went for the anaconda choke and then he switched to darse choke if i spell it correctly.
When that happened i was like "oh triple shit" lol cause we all know what big Nog has done on the ground. I thought the fight was going to end there.
SO when Mir(after receiving Knees and punches) Rolled his way out of the choke and then taking Nogs arm while he moved his legs to the other sides to get side control was just Pure Skill! I was like "wooooooooooooow" And then Nog intelligently rolled to escape it but Frank Held on to that Kimura only to roll him back to the same position they where Plus getting the correct leverage on side control to finish Nog. It was amazing!!
Joe Rogan(black belt Jiu jitsu and commentator of the UFC said it).
Frank got the submission of the night award and Dana White(President of the UFC) said that it was the Submission of the century!!
And Mr Sandras Ninja Santa is calling at a fluke???
Sorry but i could not hold my self there and i had to answer to that.
As for the Ortiz fight. Little Nog held his posture on Titos guard and he landed those shots really well and there were a few shots to the body which cut off Titos breathing. He held on but for how much longer?
It was a bad night for Him and an amazing Night for Little Nog. Things like that happen.
And last the Jones vs Machida.
Machida got Jones worried on the first round cause Lyoto was keeping his distance pretty well on the first round and he won the round too.
So Jones had no choice but to Clinch with him or take him down and he did that.
Ans he successfully Got the standing Guillotine(Greco-Roman technique) and choking Machida out on the second round.
Those 84 inch arms are deadly when wrapped on ya! lol
~LoisLane~: ^^Did you write that to me, or just as a general statement....Cuz you know if it was to me, Your going to get yelled at bahahaha.....
EvilNinjathug: lol bro i dont hate Mir as I said in my previous comment Frank Mirs jui jitsu is world class and alot of his wins were well earned i just think a few of his wins came by key mistakes made by his oponents thats all
~LoisLane~: The only Mir fight that I can see (personally) looking a little fluke ish, was when it was him and lesnar and Mir won with the ankle lock....Its like Mir looked just as surprised that he grabbed that foot and won. All in all I think hes a good fighter and has come a long way since that injury....
EvilNinjathug: yeah same thing happened with the tank abbot fight also the fight with tim sylvia he was about to drop mir off when the arm broke
EvilNinjathug: and lois yeah for sure hes to be commended his motorcycle accident wasnt minor injuries for him to come back from that and be in just as good form if not better was an amazing feat
Azimuth_Predator: I am so glad you said key mistakes. Cause when some1 makes a mistake what do you do?
And its not an excuse cause the guys train 5-7 hours per day and the have to learn all the positions and the rules ext ext. They have to be ready Physically and mentally for every aspect of the game(fight).
We are finally getting somewhere Ninja Santa.
And as for Lois it was a general Statement and a quick Analysis on the 3 fights.
Ninja Santa you said 2 words which might balance our debate...