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Him_over_there
Him_over_there:

Israel has killed a Palestinian child every three days, for 18 years..

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20180407-israel-has-killed-a-palestinian-child-every-three-days-for-18-years-reveals-shocking-statistic/
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Lucy Bullish Pearl
Lucy Bullish Pearl: Monsters!!
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Hakuna Matata 8
Hakuna Matata 8: Poor people. I will hate Israel now. Didn't know they're like that.
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: Can I insert an unconventional thought here? First, do we all agree that israel is the strongest military force in the region, otherwise the stamp-sized country wouldn't exist, with so many antagonistic neighbors. Israel pretty much has the power to wipe out the entire Palestinian ppl, and could do so in a matter of days, if it were really interested in gratuitously targeting Palestinians. More likely what is happening with these kids, the Palestinians are teaching their kids to hate jews and israel so much, that the kids run right at the israelite soldiers. And the kids dont comprehend the danger.
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michael666555444
michael666555444 in reply to Super Esquire: Benjamin Netanyahu showed educational books of the palestinian authority teaching kids at the age of 8 to kill jews. Sorry, but the real monsters here are the palestinian authority manipulating mass media for their anti-semitic cause, and those palestines that propagate this hatred. Whenever you hear about some palestine murdered in the news, ask yourself whether they tried to either: 1. kill an innocent person or 2. trepass
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Lucy Bullish Pearl
Lucy Bullish Pearl: The strongest military army wouldn't celebrate the killing, of another human being and Benjamin Netanyahu is a war criminal and will pay for his evil deeds. MONSTERS!!!
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: Much of what we see in the media is created by low information individuals, who like conflict and to create bogeymen for ratings. Much of the media is for open boarders but israel will always defend its borders, so israel gets tarnished. If jews are such bad folk, though, I wouldn't want to force the palestinians to be neighbors with israel. It's time for all the arabs to let the Palestinians out of palestine, into their own countries, if they care about the Palestinians, like they say they care.
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: To me, God parted the red sea for israel, and led israel through it into the land of promise. And that is it. The jews are home. It's unrealistic to think the jews are going anywhere.
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: They have a right to defend their country. This is what Netanyahu says.
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Lucy Bullish Pearl
Lucy Bullish Pearl: The real Hebres are Black!!
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Lucy Bullish Pearl
Lucy Bullish Pearl: Hebrews.
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: I guess the whole world has gotten it wrong
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Lucy Bullish Pearl
Lucy Bullish Pearl: Yes, they have.
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: Based on what?
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: This is a bit of a nonbliblical red herring, but the state of israel was created for this race of ppl who were being exterminated by Hitler . This ppl happen to be fairskinned.
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: I am familiar with the arguments of the black nationalist christians, but their arguments fall apart, or fail the standard of clear and convincing evidence.
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Him_over_there
Him_over_there in reply to Super Esquire:
You two geniuses are presenting a most perverse argument to justify Zionist terrorism; suggesting the fault of this carnage Israel has committed really lies with the victims; who are ‘violently running towards hapless IDF bullets’ in a fit of anti-semitic rage.

And this statement [superguyhere] made:
“It's time for all the arabs to let the Palestinians out of palestine, into their own countries, if they care about the Palestinians..”
has to be one of the most mindless comments an American ever made; and believe me there’s a great many to choose from. The very notion that surrounding nations are obliged to accommodate those Palestinians made homeless by this US financed Zionist land-grab illustrates the effects of a very successful MSM propaganda campaign being waged in ‘the land of the free’.

Victims become culprits and criminals heroes according to [superguyhere] and [michael666555444]’s expert analyses.
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: I guess it all stems from whether one considers Israel's land "a Zionist land grab" or not. If israel has no right of existence, then it defending itself is immoral. If one considers israel having a right of existence, it defending itself is moral.
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: I look at it this way: you are obliged to help if you are obliged to complain. But some dont want to solve the problem bc they question Israel's right of existence. Even though there is plenty of barren desert land in these surrounding countries no one wants. I'd divert rivers and dig wells all over, and help ppl build houses and cities. If these countries would just back off, and let these Palestinians out of the area: don't force them to live by the jews anymore.
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: Don't make Palestinians suffer bc you got a beef with the zionists.
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: By the way, the same goes for the u.s. If the immigrants want to make desserts blossom as a rose, make room for them, especially if they get a testimony of America. That's what the Mormons did in utah. It was a blighted dessert land, that is now amazing. All of this can be done, folks.
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: They asked Abraham Lincoln about what he thought about the mormons. Lincoln said "the Mormons are like a stump in the cropfield. You just got to plow around it." So it is with israel. It's this stump that has been around for three quarters of a century. At some point, the "Zionist land grab" card gets a little old.
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Nicorrette
Nicorrette: verry bad then!
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Him_over_there
Him_over_there:

Lot of people on Wire moaning about my criticisms of the ongoing Israeli atrocities during the #GreatReturnHome Palestinian protests. However, that Israeli soldiers behave by default, in a brutal, cowardly manner, similar to WW2 Nazi soldiers can not be negated by the historical fact many Israeli citizens are themselves progeny of parents and grandparents that suffered under the tyrannical heel of the Third Reich:

twitter.com/Ian56789/status/997523270801985537
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Lucy Bullish Pearl
Lucy Bullish Pearl: This video was very sickening to watch.
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: Thanks for sharing video, Him. No doubt there are many Palestinians who aren't trying to hurt anyone, but help others. But there have instances where palestians use ppl dressed as medics to carry suicide bombs, or pull off attacks, so it can understandably freak ppl out. Keep in mind these israel soldiers also are youths who serve their 2 years mandatory and they head out of service. I'm glad the medics prevailed, though, and no one was shot, just warning shots, maybe to keep others away.
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: These men lying in the battlefield might have been wanted men, as well, we do not know, and the soldiers might have had orders to maintain custody. Ultimately, though, the medics prevailed.
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gabriella_greek
gabriella_greek: What happens in Palestain is a continuing crime of murder with physical and moral perpetrators.Victims are always unarmed citisensespecially chidren and i don't think this is so random. All world wonders why Tramp moved USA Embassy to Jerusalim Is like he rewards this continueing crim. I feel so sorry ans mad
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: Gabriella, that is bc palestian soldiers continually use innocent civilians as shields, a charade of sorts. Israel does not purposefully target palestian civilians, if that was their intent, the whole west bank would be wiped out in a week.
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: *were their intent
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Him_over_there
Him_over_there in reply to Super Esquire:

I’ve never seen Hamas or PLO military brigades using children as Human shields [superguyhere]. Perhaps you could post evidence of this claim; and perhaps not. The whole terminology of ‘Human shield’ has been perverted by Israel, who actually do routinely use Palestinians as physical Human shields:
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A fact Amnesty International have confirmed:


Israel need to co-opt the term ‘Human shield’ in order to cloak their indiscriminate bombardment of civilians in residential areas, which is a flagrant act of terrorism.

Zionism has another term: ‘mowing the lawn’, which means killing swathes of Palestinians in order to arrest population growth. So when they suspect a Hamas military unit is near to a civilian’s home they send a missile to that house, killing everyone inside; and then exclaim: “but Hamas is using those people as Human shields.”
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: I would let the Palestinians escape if they are being treated unfairly. I wouldn't want to force them to live by israel. "Mowing lawn" refers is in reference to targeting hamas, not civilians. If you actually think Israel specifically targets civilians, and Hamas doesn't have a penchant for putting military units in civilian areas, this is extra special reason to help the Palestinians escape that area!
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: No, but keep "palestinians" in the ghetto, fuel them with jealousy of the jews, bc jews turned desert, loser land into sparkling land. But If only the jews were gone, our problems would be over. If, if, if. The grass is always "greener on the other side of the fence."
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ProjectorMonkey
ProjectorMonkey: Gosh... Superguy, with all of his power, is going to allow the Palestinians to move away from their homeland? That is swell. Whatta guy!
The israel situation has made me quite anti-semitic. I imagine that I'm not the only one who has been sickened by hearing of these attrocities.
If you keep using your religion to justify the murder of children, people will grow to associate your religion to the murder of kids & will hate your religion.
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: homeland? The jews have been in that land for time immemorial. And it was a blasted, barren desert land at the time of the balfour decree.
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ProjectorMonkey
ProjectorMonkey: That being said... I am an American & understand how it feels to be unable to fix an ugly situation on top.
I am definitely not proud of my nationality or the disgusting acts carried out on the orders of those on top here.
Also... I'm a white guy. Compounds the above statement so that I am the face of slavery & genocide going back as long as people have been writing things down.
I don't hate Jewish people & people will believe what they're told as children.
Hell, I've helped bankroll the weapons in Israel, so I'm an accessory.
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: The jews don't hate "Palestinians" but the converse is not true. The jews just want peace but Hamas wants to wipe out israel. Let us not forget that Israeli response is usually always predicated by Hamas attacks.
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: There is also some degree of complicity among the Palestinians for not uprooting Hamas from their ranks
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ProjectorMonkey
ProjectorMonkey: How many jews were killed by Palestinians during the last year?
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: If not for the iron dome, potentially thousands
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ProjectorMonkey
ProjectorMonkey: How many actually?
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ProjectorMonkey
ProjectorMonkey: Not in theory.
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: You don't get it, when you hear the Palestinians talk about exterminating the jews. The jews don't talk like this about the Palestinians
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ProjectorMonkey
ProjectorMonkey: Your method of preventing mass murder is committing mass murder. I get it.
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: So you don't think Israel has any right of self defense if struck by hamas?
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: And you think its okay for the palestians to wipe out israels, that Israel has no right of existence?
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: The difference between Israel and hamas is israel can but doesnt, but Hamas if it could would ...
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ProjectorMonkey
ProjectorMonkey: Does Israel need to commit mass murder in order to exist?
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ProjectorMonkey
ProjectorMonkey: Better question... How long would Israel survive without weapons & aid from the United States?
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Him_over_there
Him_over_there:

[superguyhere] claims:
“when you hear the Palestinians talk about exterminating the jews. The jews don't talk like this about the Palestinians”
How ill informed you are. Not only Israeli civilians but State officials routinely incite acts of violence; against Palestinians and Arabs in general. Zionism is a culture of segregation and hatred:
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-the-israeli-mk-heralding-genocide-against-palestinians-1.5475561
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: Thx for sharing that interesting video, him. It brought to mind the fact that in israel they won't let the Mormon missionaries actively prosylete in their country. They let the Mormons have a visitors center, but no door to door prosyletizing in israel. One jewish man complained to the government that the mormons were "proselytizing with their eyes" in the airport because they were smiling with cheery faces!

But, guys, why are going to let israel run your lives, if they are going to be petty? Take off and go somewhere else. Like the mormons, we were disposed of all our lands, land after land. In nauvoo, the mormons even had the largest military force in the heart of america, the nauvoo legion, and the mormons could have made it a bloody mess about. But the mormons just took off to the rocky mountains. It wasn't about them but a higher cause. I just think the palestians need to take off like the mormons to the "rocky mountsins" and let themselves heal themselves. That Palestinian land is just poisonous for them. Too much bad blood, sadness. They just need a fresh start.
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: I'd do everything to help them.
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Super Esquire
Super Esquire: They call the Mormon boys "The boys from the mountains, those that can talk with god."
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