 Friends         | View all 6 posts  Mushin UNLEASHED: wow pretty awesome 7 years ago • Report 2  blitzkid39: Oh what a sweet gesture! We should all be educated by your generous donations to those of our fellows in need! Truly!  Angelina 2: oh wow very talented woman i do know how to make the exact bedspread but i seldom cause i need to work with my hands and get rewarded great job  lionskillprey: Every argument for the existence of a god is based on presupposition that a god exists, since There are NO "facts god exists"... it's FACTS PEOPLE BELIEVE in GOD STORIES. Peoples attempt to use the word "god" as an explanation for the existence of the universe is surely utterly futile if they cannot explain the existence of their god? Either your theory that complexity has to have a creator is true, or else your theory that god didn't need a creator is a lie. You cannot claim both at the same time lionskillprey: "If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter." ~ George Washington lionskillprey: Read this the other day Standing alone is better than being around people who don't value you  Empty_Everest:  Hey lions, just wanted to say hello, as well I desire things are going well for you and your loved ones.   lionskillprey: going great here , just needed a rest for any one who has lost family , or friends I wanted to share this Do not stand at my grave and weep. I am not there, I do not sleep. I am a thousand winds that blow. I am diamond glints on the snow. I am sunlight on ripened grain. I am the gentle autumn rain. When you awaken in the morning's hush, I am the swift uplifting rush, Of quiet birds in circled flight. I am the soft stars that shine at night. Do not stand at my grave and cry. I am not there, I did not die author unknown  Empty_Everest in reply to lionskillprey: My dear lions I feel for you and I'm with you  The poem is exquisite with deep meaning, excellent choice   lionskillprey: I do not want what you want, please try not to tell me my want is wrong. Or if I believe other than you, at least pause before you correct my view. Or if my emotion is less than yours, or more, given the same circumstances, try not to ask me to feel more strongly or weakly. Or yet if I act, or fail to act, in the manner of your design for action, let me be. I do not, for the moment at least, ask you to understand me. That will come only when you are willing to give up changing me into a copy of you. I may be your spouse, your parent, your offspring, your friend or your colleague. If you allow me any of my own wants, or beliefs, or actions, then you open yourself so that someday these wants of mine might not seem so wrong, and might finally appear to you as right - for me. To put up with me is the first step in understanding me. Not that you are no longer irritated or disappointed with me for my seeming waywardness. And in understanding me you might come to prize my differences from you, and far from seeking to change me, preserve and even nurture those differences. Dr Keirsey Empty_Everest:  It is to discover the beauty as you are, not according to my standards, views and wantings... Excellent post lions, my apologies for not answering promptly  lionskillprey: The only things we need to adjust to live better lives are our morality so we can live the freest life we can, without impinging on others freedom as well. Empty_Everest: Absolutely, taking in consideration that morality is subjective, and if I don't agree with yours, I don't have to seek the meanings to impose a change on others, this is the meaning of "Be and let be," thanks for sharing your thoughts lions lionskillprey: "If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter." ~ George Washington Empty_Everest: A visionary man was Gorge Washington, so much truth in this quote, thanks for sharing lionskillprey: Bukhari:V1B22N28 "The Prophet said: 'I was shown the Hell Fire and the majority of its dwellers were women who are disbelievers or ungrateful.' When asked what they were ungrateful for, the Prophet answered, 'All the favors done for them by their husbands.'" Sahih Bukhari, The book of Eclipses, Volume 2, Book 18, Number 161: Narrated 'Abdullah bin Abbas: The sun eclipsed in the life-time of the Prophet (p.b.u.h) . Allah's Apostle offered the eclipse prayer and stood for a long period equal to the period in which one could recite Surat-al-Baqara. Then he bowed for a long time and then stood up for a long period which was shorter than that of the first standing, then bowed again for a long time but for a shorter period than the first; then he prostrated twice and then stood up for a long period which was shorter than that of the first standing; then he bowed for a long time which was shorter than the previous one, and then he raised his head and stood up for a long period which was shorter than the first standing, then he bowed for a long time which was shorter than the first bowing, and then prostrated (twice) and finished the prayer. By then, the sun (eclipse) had cleared. The Prophet then said, "The sun and the moon are two of the signs of Allah. They eclipse neither because of the death of somebody nor because of his life (i.e. birth). So when you see them, remember Allah." The people say, "O Allah's Apostle! We saw you taking something from your place and then we saw you retreating." The Prophet replied, "I saw Paradise and stretched my hands towards a bunch (of its fruits) and had I taken it, you would have eaten from it as long as the world remains. I also saw the Hell-fire and I had never seen such a horrible sight. I saw that most of the inhabitants were women." The people asked, "O Allah's Apostle! Why is it so?" The Prophet replied, "Because of their ungratefulness." It was asked whether they are ungrateful to Allah. The Prophet said, "They are ungrateful to their companions of life (husbands) and ungrateful to good deeds . If you are benevolent to one of them throughout the life and if she sees anything (undesirable) in you, she will say, 'I have never had any good from you.' " That's why Islamic heaven is full of boys of perpetual freshness to serve and satisfy you Muhammad was very specific about why many women will end up in hell. The reason is because many women don't appreciate their husbands!. How good is a woman who doesn't appreciate her husband, and doesn't care about him enough, that if he does something bad to her, then she'll remember it for him for the rest of her life? How good is a woman who doesn't remember much of the good that her husband does for her? Empty_Everest: This is difficult to justify logically the verse... Has anyone asked by any chance why we refer to G-d as a male and not a female?  Judaism is based on Kabbalah, the Torah, Tanakh, Talmud, Zohar and other Holly Books are written in the "Language of the Root and Branches", what you are reading is not related to concepts but to attributes taken from Nature. At the moment of conception the sperm moves towards the ovum to fertilize it. This is represented as male and female. The Creator is not a male nor a female. If we think about the concept of G-d in order for It to be G-d, It has to be complete, any necessity would make It to have a void, if there is a void there is no completeness. Only in the state of completeness the attribute of bestowal exist. We humanity are receivers if we were to scrutinize ALL of our actions we will discover that everything we do it's with the intention to serve the self, even in our "good deeds", we do it because it makes us feel good, our attribute is receiving. Because the Creator is the Giver the attribute of bestowal we refer to Him as a male, the attribute of receiving corresponds to humanity for this reason humanity it's refer as a female, male = the attribute of bestowal, female = the attribute of receiver. This is an example of the language of the Root and Branches. We Kabbalist don't see the Scriptures as concepts but attributes and spiritual stages. So what you interpret literally... I discoverer something about my internal stages of reality. lionskillprey: Theists claim an all powerful all knowing god and then try to absolve him of responsibility, this is ridiculous Why Pray? If it changes God's mind then he is not sovereign. If it does not change Gold's mind then it is superfluous. If a prayer comes true, then the believer says it was answered by God. If the prayer does not come true, then it was "God's will." What a crock of shit. A classic example would be a 9/11 person stuck in that building......surely some of them were saying ....please God let me live.......Gods answer.....nah ^~*~ you all A child being raped will surely cry out to god to be saved. A truer and more fervent prayer could not possibly exist....yet as their throat is cut following the rape. God answered their prayer Not Get a billion Christians to pray for a single amputee. Get them to pray that God regrow that missing limb. This happens to salamanders every day, presumably without prayer; this is within the capacity of God Pray to God for all the starving children, and put those prayers in a warehouse. Next door, fill a warehouse with food and clothing. Let's see which warehouse does more good More than a year after boasting that she kicked her habit through prayer, Whitney Houston has checked herself into a drug rehabilitation clinic." NY daily News 03/16/04 Prayer is more than begging, it's pleading, and whining, and crying, and pathetically not getting off your ass and actually DOING SOMETHING View all 6 posts lionskillprey in reply to Brandijoi12: how do you hate a concept ( God is a concept. Concepts, themselves, cannot prove anything. They exist only in the mind of those who maintain them ) lionskillprey: What about hell... is a god that made hell... a place of eternal torment ... worthy of our worship... You forget about hell and what it is so you can feel good about your god and yourself Theist are great at preaching but not very great at thinking.... what about the Fact that your god desires constant worship ... what about the fact that your god is so self centered that he would commit most of the world to hell simply because they do not believe in god ... Hell is torment.... How could a merciful and loving god create such a place? hell for unbelievers... for unbelievers, not just the sinful, unbelievers.. What sort of God do you worship? ... a vengeful, vindictive, god View all 6 posts DestinyZion: Hi lions, thanks for sharing. Personally, I don't believe in hell as you've described. I think it's terrible that people preach about such a place. I agree with you and EE... it makes no sense at all. I'd love to have a discussion with you sometime about it. Mushin UNLEASHED: if you accept god, and lead a good life, you wont go to hell ... thats really all you have to do .... p.s. islam is awesome ... lol lionskillprey: 1. We know the difference between hope and knowledge, we hope for happiness here and we dream of joy hereafter, but we do not know. We cannot assert, we can only hope. We can have our dream. In the wide night our star can shine and shed its radiance on the graves of those we love. We can bend above our pallid dead and say that beyond this life there are no sighs -- no tears -- no breaking hearts. Author Unknown Empty_Everest: I truly enjoyed the poem, thanks for sharing Our inability to merge the intellectual thought and the emotional thought, because we have no idea what is the meaning, reason, and purpose of our lives... in order to justify the circumstances internal and external of our existence. Empty_Everest: If a woman is okay and consciously accept it and has no problem with it, I don't see why I should have a problem with it. If it was the opposite then that woman has the obligation to seek liberation from it. Empty_Everest: I saw this video and reminded me of your post, in my opinion this gives a new meaning to burka   lionskillprey: The web of our life is of a mingled yarn, good and ill together. Our virtues would be proud if our faults whip them not; and our crimes would despair if they were not cherished by our virtues lionskillprey: ....I respect all people for what they chose in life...because we all have free will...if that’s their choice than so be it...I have my own choice and expect the same respect Empty_Everest: Be and let be... Discovering humanity within us allows me to taste, to feel for you, not to feel sorry for you; that you are me and I am you; that what your view as choice is perfect and I have no desire to change it, because I discover you complete. |
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