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RobStorm: prediction 4 what it's worth----Ossuff may edge out Chicklen Perdue in GA but Warnock loses to Loeffler....GOP keeps the senate barely 3 years ago • Report • Link 0 RobStorm: happy holidays to all and a wonderful and more pacific New Year with far more success, fewer virusres, more unity, a strenuous push back against Russia as well as China and a return to at least a semblance of sanity and semi- normalcy RobStorm: "frtaud" report----the last attempts to change election "results" will likely be the certification to Justice Alioto of SUPR CT to get Supremes before next week to take up tthe last minute Pa changes on absentees, etc one other possible supreme court try will allegedly be made too...if both Pa and the other w ere to be allowed and adjudged in Trump's favor it ois NOT at all certai n this would change the electoral college ..likely it would fall short but it would then likely bring to Congress in early january the question of fraud in the joint chamber..it would then take at least one Congressman and one Sen in ecah of the affected states to get the electoral count changed or reversed or changed if one of each chamber suggest fraud, etc then the delegations of that affected state must vote on it...unlikkly in 6 cases that even one state would reverse from what we see now. It's never been done before in 200 plus years/ BUT it aint over yet if Trump etal wish to pursue it and IF a supreme court judge goes along etc.Of course if the above SHOULD somehow occur, i am positive that the full supreme court would THEN take the case as in Bush v Gore and we'd get a final result likely Biggest liklihood--BO RE VERSAL biggest reason---Supremes hate to intervene en banc and even if so the alleged fraud or whatever wouly have toa) change the election results inside thestate involved and then b) give the opponent (TRUMP) 270 electorals..a reversal of fortune. Both are now improbable and the SCt hates these kimnd of political questions RobStorm: fraud report....lots of election fraud, all needs to be cleaned up..one perfect solution woudl be making Staci ambassador to Mongolia my best guess...despite fraud, three states woudl still have to switch..no way WISC or MICH would..possibly ga , ariz, nev..most likely nev and ga but those two wouldnt change results in electoral college, lets face facts probably greatest fraud in PA and IN VEV..ie last veeas and clark co, where Harry Reid rules local vegas unions and where 75% of people in nev live pa still too big a swing for a reversal olikely..so if ariz and nev or ga and nev or ga and ariz fall back to GOP, no change..still Biden wins..would take three o more states or PA and a big one...very very very very unlikely....check out MIchelle Bachman's piece.... prediction: no change but in Ga, Kelly loses to Warnock (she is awful and despite fact warnock is a gilt-edged total radical of the stokely variety, he will get a huge ATLANTA vote) Ossuff has already lost to Perdue, who traded 2600 times as US senator, many questionable, and will not pull in black vote..results: GOP wins one of two, the blonde goes home and GOP holds sway in senate but watch anything sTACI TOUCHES...AND PS..WHAT IS HER FUTURE PLANS? (BEWARE, SHE IS FAR MORE TOXIC THAN AOC IN A NIGHTMARE DREAM OF STEPHEN KING'S) needed soon: bRAND NEW gop AND NEW CANDIDATES ASAP AND NEW POLICIES AND GRUDGING RECOGNITION OF THE OBVIOUS...YOU CONSERVATIVE HISPANICS AND BLACKS AND ASIATICS OR YOU FLUNK 2024 demographoics 101 RobStorm: PREDICTION for what its worth dept----Before jan 21 of course much depends on what happens in GA..tho not all...If GOP wins one or two seats there (which I expect unless there is a wave of CREATED mailouts which i believe sec state there will try to squelch, then split Congress, no huge STIMULUS (l Trillion likely in FEB) and TRump if he does as expected campaign there will kick off an attempt to retake WHouse maybe immediately. If Dems win Ga, then all bets off. AT minimum the Progressives will attempt to get PRico and DC senate seats and MAY liely seek to pack court with 2-6 more open seats for Biden to fill. That may take more than a simple majority though and regardless woukld need be done ASAP because 2022 Congress is already at doubt. Nancy is on short leash. Most GOP senators and most congressionals will fear going against Donald but some will and may be attempt by the Non Trump foces to get a new challenger afoot by Spring. Next step depends on Trump..if he as expedcted goes into TV/media/a few venture anti-FOX (Newsmax), thenhe may consider teh following: try to get son or some Trump pick as the successor and be happy with new life, making $ and sponsoring new Trumpians for offices. Its unlikely Donnie Jr has a chance. Maybe Ivanka would try or a Jared-Ivanka power duo ifJared succeeds in DEC in Mideast. If Romney-Sass types organize a anti Trump attempt to take over GOP, as I expect, and should Trump either say to Heck with it or pursue other ventures and NOT run for the GOP nomination. he MIGHT hold the balance in party and in 24 election by emulating TEDDY ROOSEVELT's stance in 1912--third party BULLMOOSERS. If so, he would probably prevent either party from getting electoral victory and or 50%popular votes, giving him Kingmaker stance (OR MORE). In other words, many things could happen and I suggest TRUMP will try..either l) run again 2) wield party power and get a selectee (Brawley, etc)picked or 3) run third party in 24 or 4)back Ivanka or Donnie Jr or 5) In early january defer to Pence, resign presidency, get federal pardon and work Biden for a deal on other charges that may occur.If he decides to do the latter,would be combine this with titular Party Chaim while crtreating a NEW FOX headed by self and possibly throw support early to Pence? Lets discuss these possibilities....fun, eh??Betcha it will be a surprise whatever... RobStorm: Understood and sure agree it's over, no matter whether we like it or not. The fat lady has sung and ddespite the fact in PA, Ga likely and also Mich and probably Vegas, the votes involved most unlikely to change things. If Pa went to Trump, Boden still has 286 and if one of the others also (maybe Ga, closest?) then still 270..enough to win in ECollege. Now its time to hope like hell that Oldc Joe has the guts and foresight to be a moderate even conservative DEM and that Ga will keep the GOP in charge inSenate qas a definite blocking power to craziness. All we can do is hope. We weathered Truman, who became qa decent Pres. We weathered the crazy Kennedies and the outrageous spending and wars of LBJ. We weathered Carter and Clinton. Actually Teddy derailed Carter so no one had to block him. We can do better and will if conservatives, libertarians, moderates and the sane people of this country rally to assist the GOP and put together a coalition that recognizes certain demographic trends. I'll settle for HALEY , a moderate to conservatoive woman with some foreign policy sensibilities, in 24 with Rubio or a Hispanic or a strong conservatoive like Cotton or Brawley as her VP. Dont give up! It aint over by a long shot. RobStorm: Post election bizarness continues. We ALL know certain election fraud occurs regularly and has been esp true of CHI, DET, PHILLY for ages. Remember l960 CHI and Cook Co results that gave Kennedy Illinois (thanks to dad Joe?)??But 3 tomes in 50 years have statewide elections been turned over due to fraud, including 2000 Gore v Bush.Six million pop voites and some 70 elevtorals and 3-6 batleground states, so far look stretchy at best. All 23 prior by the way involved vote margins far far less than any of current at-issue states. Thus, dont plan for legal reversals save perhaps in ga. If fraud, lets see it and then lets reverse. If not? Lets shut up and go on. GOP party meanwhile needs a housecleaning, many changesw , perhaps including Mitch. It no longer sems to have muchrelationship with vast parts of the otherwise moderate to conservative populace. Populism fused with moneyed interests of wall street and consevrativism and the vestigaes of Libertarianism seem not to be creating a new, viable MAJORITY. A fusion is needed and more able GOP leaders. Why cant GOP{ bea big tent (liek dems) as opposed to a warring small tent? Post Trump leadershop sure needs changing and so far I dont see much chance for brilliance there. Someone other than ROMNEY. a failed amd seemingly confused candidate, needs to step forward AND pOMPEO, Rubio and Cruz?? Doubtful. maybe Rubio to get the conservative and moderate Hispanic vote> Coudl do worse and Trumpo has helped to expand the Spanish vote. 65 more days of varied left-right warring conspiracy theories, little done on raging CIVID, probably no stimulus, a dumb transition and more threats of a future violence. That's our Christmas prsent from DC? OMG..Merry Christmas. RobStorm: Re: insider comments....Unless there is MASSIVE discovered vote fraud, the liklihood of Supreme Ct getting involved somewhat limited. Many reasons. Way out: much utilized "POLITICAL QUESTION" doctrine..refer to same or con law tracts. Supremes hate to get involved with Congress OR Presidency and evade where possible.However if widespread fraud discovered OR sufficient amounts to adversely (to Biden campaign) affect 2-3 states tha5t COUDL make the difference (eg if they discover gross amounts of PHILLY or DETROIT fraud or the once mentioned general DOMINION SOFTWARE alleged "errors" if they affected 3-4 states, then yhis could ARGUABLY wind up with SUpremes OR of they avoif it skilfully, as he mentioned back to state legislatures who COULD in affected states APPOINT their own electors nort based on POP vote. THAT ALMOST CERTAINLY woudl get us to Supremes and at least a mini-crisis. My guess is the above is 10-20% possible, but more likely until more transpires, this is a GOP well-manicured plan to keep the TEAM and efforty together, emotions high and thus max the chances of winning one or both GA senate seats (which is why Mitch would support). Also, if that occurs and if eventually SOME sizeable fraud is discovered, even IF not enough to swing the election results to Trump, it would give Donald J the foothold and backing in BASE to try again to emulate Grover Cleveland and win the nominatiomn ad possibly win in 24 (or do as TR tried and failede to do and head a BIG third party--- BULLMOOSE anyone?? This does get interesting. The KEY plan: retain teh base, obviously.Most likely its all back to normal by early january. But.......................... RobStorm: interesting.....i see i missed a lot (of rancor) during the month prior to election...some things never change.....will check out new room soon.....old room sems to be so discombobulated and erractically irrelevant now that only people with no life and nothing to do but rant.......you get the idea my belief is Trump ramn a fairly lousy campaign till the last 3 weeks then got going..too late...the Virus killed his chances obviously and that will be the epita[h..much too few real heavyweight advisers around him and his hunches were not all that good this time..you need advice in DC..thatt's why JIMMY BAKER (Chief staff, treasury, secty state--the man who SHOUDL HAVE been president in the 90s or instead of Gopher Bush II---was so damned good. Trump never had a Jimmy Baker Regardless of the merits of the campaign, IF Biden does weather teh legqal challenges, he may be bettr than Obama. AQlso far better than the DEM Left tgoday, of course. If/when he departs....that's another story. If GOP weathers Ga january senate elections, we will have mixed /split government and Nancy coudl well be gone.....the LEFT wants her gone .Such a shame..ha. Does Trump have a legal challenge to the eection resilts? PENNSY is vulnerable....to recounts and a through investiagion. Checkout DOMINION SOFTWARE whose software for elections was used in PA, maybe some other battlegrounds. Chckecd out their CEO and others..past politicos. THis one smldls and the suoit begins Mon. But PA if reversed would unlikely be enough .Woudl have to have been duplicated elsewhere. We shall see. Take no bets....ROB RobStorm: new ideas.....emphasize UNITY and not differences..look for reasons to appreciate others, not hate or decry them..at one time I HEAR Americans once did that...but i realizethat is HISTORY..it's not taught anymore..or so I hear
RobStorm: `wing..i am not surprised..also how come every Tom Dick & Harry has a competing death and case model??A nd why after 4-6 mos is the GREAT AMERICAN investigative community (the oress, intell, leadership, congress) INCAPABLE of telling us how the virus got initiated in Wuhan, whether it was bio war originated, a mistake, accident, criminality or criminal negligence??Are we THIS stupid?? RobStorm: A friend of mine writes..".I just got back from Walmart. At least 80% with masks on. I was onee of them. Should have robbed them" MY reply "You could have said "Stick em up and hand me 30 lbs of hamburger!!?" Strange times!! RobStorm to The Dark Flower: Suc is/was Easter...a pagan holiday, much the same as Christmas is..And some say EASTER goes back to the days of NIMROD, the Hunter, in ancient Noineveh, long before the Great Assyrian Empire. I tend to believe that is possible..BTW, Nimmy the Hun, not Hunter the B, was married to his Mother (the first Jocasta??)and all of thiswas fertility worship related.Some say.... RobStorm: obvious..but baby killers dont think like sane folk, have NO rules..and this pattern exists on MOST issues...why i dont even try to debate much people who CANNOT think..i would enact poll exams and guess who woudl flunk?? |
