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Super Esquire: Or the example where everyone had to have been bum rushing jesus to do things for them. "It is not for me to give the children's food to the dogs," jesus told the samaritan woman.
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Super Esquire: Or the time, apparently, when mary was being manipulate with jesus about wine, and jesus said, "woman, what have I to do with thee?"
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Super Esquire to DaisyWink: Here are some examples that I've come across through my reading of the early Christian writings referencing plurality of gods teaching, prior to the great apostasy:
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Justin Martyr (150 AD): "yet thereby it is demonstrated that all men are deemed worthy of becoming 'gods,' and of having power to become sons of the Highest": (Dialog of Justin with Trypho, a Jew, ch CXXIV, in Alexander Roberts, James Donaldson, The Ante-Nicene Fathers, volume I, pp 261-262)

Also here (chapter 124):

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/01288.htm

Irenaeus (c. 175 - c. 195), "For we cast blame on Him, because we have not been made gods from the beginning, but at first merely men, then at length gods . . .He (God) declares: "I have said, Ye are gods, and ye are all sons of the Highest." And also, "How, then, shall he be a God, who has not as yet been made a man? Or how can he be perfect who was but lately created? How, again, can he be immortal, who in his mortal nature did not obey his Maker? For it must be that thou, at the outset, shouldest hold the rank of a man, and then afterwards partake of the glory of God. For thou dost not make God, but God thee." (Irenaeus, "Against Heresies", Book IV, XXXVIII-XXXIX, (The Ante-Nicene Fathers, Roberts & Donaldson, Editors, Volume 1, p. 521-523)), also here:

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103438.htm

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103439.htm

He also wrote, "... but following the only true and steadfast Teacher, the Word of God, our Lord Jesus Christ, who did, through his transcendent love, become what we are, that He might bring us to be even what He is Himself" ("Against Heresies", Book V, Preface, in Alexander Roberts, James Donaldson, The Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume I, p 526)

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103500.htm
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Clement of Alexandria (c. 155 - c. 220 AD): "But that man with whom the Word dwells does not alter himself, does not get himself up: he has the form which is of the Word; he is made like to God; he is beautiful; he does not ornament himself; his is beauty, the true beauty, for it is God; and that man becomes God, since God so wills. Heraclitus, then, rightly said, "Men are gods, and gods are men. For the Word Himself is the manifest mystery: God in man, and man God." (Clement of Alexandria, "The Instructor", Book III, Chap. 1, in Alexander Roberts, James Donaldson, The Ante-Nicene Fathers, volume II, p.271)

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/02093.htm

In teaching of the degrees of glory in heaven, he also teaches that men become gods. In the chapter titled "Degrees of Glory in Heaven", Clement writes: "But 'it is enough for the disciple to become as the Master,' saith the Master. To the likeness of God, then, he that is introduced into adoption and the friendship of God, to the just inheritance of the lords and gods is brought; if he be perfected, according to the Gospel, as the Lord Himself taught." ("The Stromata, or Miscellanies", book VI, chap. XIV, in Alexander Roberts, James Donaldson, The Ante-Nicene Fathers, volume II, pp 505-506).

Chapter 14 here:

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/02106.htm

Elsewhere, in his "Exhortation to the Heathen", Clement writes: "It is time, then, for us to say that the pious Christian alone is rich and wise, and of noble birth, and thus call and believe him to be God's image, and also His likeness,* having become righteous and holy and wise by Jesus Christ, and so far already like God. Accordingly this grace is indicated by the prophet, when he says, "I said that ye are gods, and all sons of the Highest." For us, yea us, He has adopted, and wishes to be called the Father of us alone, not of the unbelieving. Such is then our position who are the attendants of Christ." ("Exhortation to the Heathen", chap XII, in Alexander Roberts, James Donaldson, The Ante-Nicene Fathers, volume II, p. 206).

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/020812.htm
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Origen (185-254 AD). Origen is hard to summarize, because he says so much on this topic. Here are a few examples, with brief quotations to help clue in to the relevant text:

"Now it is possible that some may dislike what we have said representing the Father as the one true God, but admitting other beings besides the true God, who have become gods by having a share of God." And " He is the God of these beings who are truly Gods, and then He is the God, in a word, of the living and not of the dead." Origen's Commentary on John, book 2 chapter 3, Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume X, Allan Menzies, D.D., editor, (Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans Publishing, 1990 reprint) pp. 323-324.

See chapters 2 and 3 here:

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/101502.htm

And Origen's Commentary on John, book 1 chapter 34, Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume X, Allan Menzies, D.D., editor, (Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans Publishing, 1990 reprint) p. 315.

Chapter 34 here:

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/101501.htm


He writes, "For Scripture distinguishes between those gods which are such only in name and those which are truly gods" Origen, Against Celsus, book 8.3-5, The Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol. 4, edited by Roberts and Donaldson (Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans Publishing, 1990 reprint), pp. 640-641.

See chapters 4 and 5 here:
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Super Esquire: "God requires a new set of questions: what are you trying to teach me here? What issues in my heart are you trying to raise through this? What is it do you want me to see? What are you asking me to let go of? In truth, god has been trying to initiate you for a long time. What is in the way is how you've mishandled your wound and the life you've constructed as a result." Wild Heart, p. 107, John Eldridge
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Super Esquire: Let me address Roe v. Wade, vis a vis the Alabama bill.


Roe is implicitly based on the principle of adverse possession of the womb. If the woman doesn't take action within a certain amount of time, then the fetus inside acquires adverse possession rights of the womb, and it effectively becomes "a person" at that time that the state can regulate and protect. Under Roe, those adverse possession rights become finalized when the baby becomes viable, or able to live on its own outside the womb. With the rise of technology, the baby can live outside the womb earlier and earlier, as hospitals can prop up all kinds of ppl with intravenous feeding tubes, etc.

Here, the alabama law implicitly accelerates viability to when a heart beat is first detected by sonogram, allowing the state to get involved. The law effectively redefines viability to when the babies' heart beats. And once the baby is heart beating viable, the state can get involved to punish doctors who destroy that heart beat, who violate their hippocratic oaths to "do no harm to life." The bill punishes doctors and not women bc doctors have higher standards of conduct than regular ppl.

Nicotina's objection is one of lack of notice, though, bc this person within is being harbored by the woman, and she who is doing the harboring should have a say of what is going on, especially if she is put in this situation not as a result of her own free will, being on account of rape. Less say, however, if she volitionally had the sex.

Nicotina is contesting that the sonogram device shouldnt be used as a means to create the legal benchmark for viability bc the woman left to her own devices cannot sense the heart beat of the baby, or is aware of the baby's existence at such an early stage. However, the woman knows that pregnancy can always happen, coupled with sexual intercourse, even if birth control is used. Some actions or career choices are inherently risky, like sky diving, cliff jumping, or fire rescue, and ppl assume the liability if they volitionally engage in those behaviors. True, not everyone wants to sit at a desk all day long, but bear in mind, that is one reason we have insurance policies, to lessen risk. One can write insurance policies on anything, like impregnation risk.

The question is whether it is legally sustainable to force a woman to bear a child, bc there is no requirement that the woman raise the child, as she can give the child up for adoption. And there are multitudes of ppl desperate to adopt children, as some women cannot have kids and really want kids. Some women even try or intend to kidnap other's children to get kids (almost happened to me or siblings when I was a little boy, but that is another story).

But the state forces ppl to do things all the time, like incarcerating individuals in prison. Such an action is detestable to those individuals, but the state does it anyway. Childbirth is painful process, no doubt, like being locked up in jail for 9 months, and physically and emotionally taxed.

With a rape exception included, however, there seems to be enough women in favor of these heart beat law for them to stand, bc kids are too cute after they are born. And all of us were given a chance at life.

Therefore, do one to others as you would have them do to you. No one wants someone to stick a knife or drill bit in their head and then suck their brains out. Disgusting and appalling to think about.
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Super Esquire: Redbob, it is ironic you write "Take your head out of a woman's vagina." As this is what these abortion doctors are doing, sticking their heads in womans vaginas.

Further, we aren't discussing Bible at all, but nicotina brought up the bible, as a conclusory objection, without grounds.

Also, let me know when you find a baby that is genetically monochrome, like it is the property of the body of a woman. Last time I checked it takes two to tango to make a baby, i.e. a person.
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ASCENSION THURSDAY
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Jesus wandered for
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11 apostles
Written about
Mark
Matthew..
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Super Esquire: Yes, I believe Jesus was ressurected, Alex, but I don't think he wants us fixating on the method of execution (the cross) but on his ressurection therefrom. As he was resurrected, he can resurrect us all.
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Super Esquire to locksley69: 1. Early christian fathers

Under Early christian fathers, they seem to advocate the "transubstantiation" doctrine. Historical precedent and co-extensiveness in time helps push out deviance, and can be illuminating, although is not ipso facto determinative of "the truth." Here, have you ever played the game "telephone", where you pass a message from person person and see how it comes out in the end? Wires could have gotten crossed very early on, and the error merely perpetuated after that. Paul also writes, "i know there are ppl who call themselves my apostles, but I call them liars."

Therefore, as in other contexts, first in time is not always first in right, although it can add color to title, but not definitive title.

2. Scriptural Content, Plain Reading

Plain reading can be deceptive, too. Under the scriptures, no doubt "drink my blood, eat my body" was a hard saying for the ppl to hear. And ppl en masse left Jesus. "For jesus needed not the testimony of men for he knew what was in men." No doubt with God all things are possible, and jesus turned the wster to wine.

But, here, I always interpreted the "drink my blood" scripture as procedural, not substantive, in nature. Jesus did not want to be a rock star. He was not the barrabus type messiah the jews were looking for. Jesus pushed away adulation in other contexts, too, like with the pharisee who wanted to follow him. "Foxes have holes, birds have nests, but the son of man has not where to lay his head."

Therefore, drink my blood was figurative, and parabolic in nature, not literal. "No man spake like this," one of the guards sent to arrest jesus, commented.

3. Jesus not always Curbing misundersranding

Jesus does not deny us our free agency to think. Under the bible, there is only one instance where jesus construed the meaning of one of his parables, that of the sower. "Master why do you speak in parables?" Otherwise, Jesus was not in the habit of dumbing things down for his audience, or chewing their food for them, at least under the record we have in the bible. He let ppl think foolishness if they wished, like he smote his breast, "destroy this temple and I will rebuild it in three days." Here, he knew how the jews who misread this teaching. "I thank thee father that thou hast hidden these things from the wise and learned but revealed them to babes."

Like with Joseph Smith, some preachers came and sought occasion against him. And instead of arguing back and forth, Smith famously drew a line in the sand, and jumped the line. "Now, let me see who of you can beat that." The men went away in a huff.

Therefore, the lord lets ppl be fools, if they wish, and gives ppl the rope whereby they hang themselves, if they are prideful and hearted.
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Super Esquire: Kai, "procedural and not substantive" is legalise for a process or means to an end, not an end in itself, or to be taken literally. Jesus spoke in parables all the time.
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Super Esquire: See below, posted for daisywink, for early christian father snippets
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Super Esquire: Here are some examples that I've come across through my reading of the early Christian writings referencing plurality of gods teaching, prior to the great apostasy:
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Justin Martyr (150 AD): "yet thereby it is demonstrated that all men are deemed worthy of becoming 'gods,' and of having power to become sons of the Highest": (Dialog of Justin with Trypho, a Jew, ch CXXIV, in Alexander Roberts, James Donaldson, The Ante-Nicene Fathers, volume I, pp 261-262)

Also here (chapter 124):

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/01288.htm

Irenaeus (c. 175 - c. 195), "For we cast blame on Him, because we have not been made gods from the beginning, but at first merely men, then at length gods . . .He (God) declares: "I have said, Ye are gods, and ye are all sons of the Highest." And also, "How, then, shall he be a God, who has not as yet been made a man? Or how can he be perfect who was but lately created? How, again, can he be immortal, who in his mortal nature did not obey his Maker? For it must be that thou, at the outset, shouldest hold the rank of a man, and then afterwards partake of the glory of God. For thou dost not make God, but God thee." (Irenaeus, "Against Heresies", Book IV, XXXVIII-XXXIX, (The Ante-Nicene Fathers, Roberts & Donaldson, Editors, Volume 1, p. 521-523)), also here:

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103438.htm

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103439.htm

He also wrote, "... but following the only true and steadfast Teacher, the Word of God, our Lord Jesus Christ, who did, through his transcendent love, become what we are, that He might bring us to be even what He is Himself" ("Against Heresies", Book V, Preface, in Alexander Roberts, James Donaldson, The Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume I, p 526)

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103500.htm
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Clement of Alexandria (c. 155 - c. 220 AD): "But that man with whom the Word dwells does not alter himself, does not get himself up: he has the form which is of the Word; he is made like to God; he is beautiful; he does not ornament himself; his is beauty, the true beauty, for it is God; and that man becomes God, since God so wills. Heraclitus, then, rightly said, "Men are gods, and gods are men. For the Word Himself is the manifest mystery: God in man, and man God." (Clement of Alexandria, "The Instructor", Book III, Chap. 1, in Alexander Roberts, James Donaldson, The Ante-Nicene Fathers, volume II, p.271)

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/02093.htm

In teaching of the degrees of glory in heaven, he also teaches that men become gods. In the chapter titled "Degrees of Glory in Heaven", Clement writes: "But 'it is enough for the disciple to become as the Master,' saith the Master. To the likeness of God, then, he that is introduced into adoption and the friendship of God, to the just inheritance of the lords and gods is brought; if he be perfected, according to the Gospel, as the Lord Himself taught." ("The Stromata, or Miscellanies", book VI, chap. XIV, in Alexander Roberts, James Donaldson, The Ante-Nicene Fathers, volume II, pp 505-506).

Chapter 14 here:

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/02106.htm

Elsewhere, in his "Exhortation to the Heathen", Clement writes: "It is time, then, for us to say that the pious Christian alone is rich and wise, and of noble birth, and thus call and believe him to be God's image, and also His likeness,* having become righteous and holy and wise by Jesus Christ, and so far already like God. Accordingly this grace is indicated by the prophet, when he says, "I said that ye are gods, and all sons of the Highest." For us, yea us, He has adopted, and wishes to be called the Father of us alone, not of the unbelieving. Such is then our position who are the attendants of Christ." ("Exhortation to the Heathen", chap XII, in Alexander Roberts, James Donaldson, The Ante-Nicene Fathers, volume II, p. 206).

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/020812.htm
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Origen (185-254 AD). Origen is hard to summarize, because he says so much on this topic. Here are a few examples, with brief quotations to help clue in to the relevant text:

"Now it is possible that some may dislike what we have said representing the Father as the one true God, but admitting other beings besides the true God, who have become gods by having a share of God." And " He is the God of these beings who are truly Gods, and then He is the God, in a word, of the living and not of the dead." Origen's Commentary on John, book 2 chapter 3, Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume X, Allan Menzies, D.D., editor, (Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans Publishing, 1990 reprint) pp. 323-324.

See chapters 2 and 3 here:

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/101502.htm

And Origen's Commentary on John, book 1 chapter 34, Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume X, Allan Menzies, D.D., editor, (Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans Publishing, 1990 reprint) p. 315.

Chapter 34 here:

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/101501.htm


He writes, "For Scripture distinguishes between those gods which are such only in name and those which are truly gods" Origen, Against Celsus, book 8.3-5, The Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol. 4, edited by Roberts and Donaldson (Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans Publishing, 1990 reprint), pp. 640-641.

See chapters 4 and 5 here:
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